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Leave it to Canada to be politically correct in Afghanistan (pg. 2)
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
you don't think that may be a *wee* bit of an oversimplification of the matter?
none of us (most of us, anyway) know little to nothing of their culture, national conciousness, feelings on a military foreign presence being there, etc. To comment on what "they" (the citizens, the rebels, the gov't, etc) perceive is simply ignorant.
our military people have spent enough time over there that I'll defer to their better judgement instead of sitting at home in the safety of my own living room and second-guessing their move as merely catering to "political correctness".
IMHO, it's more important they do their job than proudly display our flag. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
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Face it, this smacks of canadian style PC do-goodness gone mad. |
now you're appearing ridiculous with these wild preconceptions...
Another article on the matter, from today's Toronto Star, notes that this request was made to ALL nations with a presence there, not just Canada:
| quote: | | ...The commanders have asked coalition military installations in the country to lower their national flags and fly only the Afghan flag to emphasize the authority of the Afghan government. Canada has decided to comply out of “cultural sensitivity, and the Maple Lead was lowered at a Canadian base in Kandahar... |
so I guess you can drop your "canadian style PC do-goodness" theory out the window.
source:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...72154&t=TS_Home |
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| Jayx1 |
| The request was made BY canada to all other nations because we are in charge right now. So the theory still stands. |
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| MarkT |
Canada is taking over in one area...the U.S. is still in charge overall, from what I gather, no? From the same article:
| quote: | Canadian Brig.-Gen. David Fraser took command today of a new multinational brigade forming in southern Afghanistan to relieve American troops who have formed the bulk of coalition forces in the region. The handover took place during a ceremony at the main airbase near Kandahar.
Fraser is also in charge of 2,200 Canadian troops that are part of that brigade. Fraser echoed the prediction of peril by his coalition superiors. |
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| Jayx1 |
canada has been in charge since the beginning of the year. And we are getting more and more responsibilty. Hence why they requested the flag thing.
It was canada's request. |
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| MarkT |
actually, FROM YOUR OWN QUOTED ARTICLE:
| quote: | | U.S. Maj.-Gen. Benjamin Freakley, the coalition operational commander who asked contributing countries to lower their flags, said the international community needs to build institutions like the Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police. Raising the Afghan flag as frequently as possible can only help the effort. |
lol
btw, I believe that overall coalition authority is still currently held by the U.S....our Brig.-Gen. Fraser, who's taking over in the southern region, has two U.S. superiors (also noted in the Toronto Star article). |
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| Jayx1 |
| Actually he is outgoing commander as the canadians are starting the transition to heading the afghan operations. So why wasnt this an issue before?? Suddenly because canada has its flag up instead of the US? Whether the initial request came from them or us, we are doing it no questions asked. And thats a bloody shame. |
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| MarkT |
you're point keeps changing.
it's gone from Canada lowering it's flag to Canada asking everyone to do it...to me pointing out that a U.S. commander asked everyone to do it.
we complied.
so tell me EXACTLY what your problem is...since we've now done away with your "Face it, this smacks of canadian style PC do-goodness gone mad." position
if you have an issue with ALL countries being asked to lower their flags...that's fine. Stop knocking Canada as some country who caves to political correctness and address your concerns to the U.S. commander who issued the request.
and while you're at it...have some f'n respect for the job they're doing over there and stop getting hung up on this one stupid issue.
:rolleyes: x 100 |
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| EvilTree |
| This is a silly debate. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
you're point keeps changing.
it's gone from Canada lowering it's flag to Canada asking everyone to do it...to me pointing out that a U.S. commander asked everyone to do it.
we complied.
so tell me EXACTLY what your problem is...since we've now done away with your "Face it, this smacks of canadian style PC do-goodness gone mad." position
if you have an issue with ALL countries being asked to lower their flags...that's fine. Stop knocking Canada as some country who caves to political correctness and address your concerns to the U.S. commander who issued the request.
and while you're at it...have some f'n respect for the job they're doing over there and stop getting hung up on this one stupid issue.
:rolleyes: x 100 |
we ARE a country that caves in. Why not put up both flags? And i have a huge respect for what they are doing. That is why hiding the flag is offensive to me and should be offensive to them as well. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
This is a silly debate. |
it is.
I'm just tired of inaccuracies and people bashing the efforts of this country.
If the Liberals were still in power, he'd find a way to drag them into it too, I'm sure. |
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| Sean Cassidy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Face it, this smacks of canadian style PC do-goodness gone mad. |
FTW!
PC - progressive conservative (do-goodness) - and now you are complaining - you are too funny!
BLAME HARPER
WHAT WHAT!
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