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[EQ Discussion] Gain Control (pg. 2)
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| djillicit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Protege
Gains are definitely an essential part of good mixes. Ive got some songs (James Talk - Get Down, for example) that are really low compared to other tracks so I have to turn it up a lot.
I can usually keep all the tracks at the same level by looking at the lights on the mixer for each channel. I try to adjust the volume so that the peak is just in to +9 per channel or +3 for the main. |
+9dB per channel? +3 for main? Wouldn't IMMENSE loads of clipping occur by setting it that high? Best results are usually achieved by keeping the outputs between -2db and 0db... |
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| wizniz |
just as a side note to help simplify things for people.
when guitarist have their gain the whole way up, then regardless of how high their volume is, theyre going to have distortion because of the peaks.
volume simply controls how loud it is leaving the amp.
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| stefanoc |
| i use both gain and the volume faders. i need to adjust the gain if a song is recorded at a lower volume so i can hear it in the headphones. and once its all good drop the volume but then i dont touch the gain. |
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| Mav 3000 |
When I'm mixing on vinyl I usually set the gains quite high when monitoring so I can hear the new percussion I'm mixing in clearly. I'll then turn it down slightly before the mix but keep it perhaps higher than it should be. I'll then use the faders to bring the song in at the same volume as the current track.
My mixer doesn't have the luxury of cue LEDs so I can't see the volume of the track I'm mixing in visually. I hate not having this feature!
I've noticed when I record my mixes, they usually end up louder than the beginning - I put this down to 'getting into it' or compensating for loss of hearing as the mix goes on and my ears go numb-er!
I use a Vestax PMC-175 at home. |
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| Zild |
| Preset the gains so the track peaks at 0db. And I also use them to mix like rotaries sometimes. Instead of taking a track out or bringing it in with the fader I will leave the fader at the top and use the gains to bring the track in or out. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Preset the gains so the track peaks at 0db. And I also use them to mix like rotaries sometimes. Instead of taking a track out or bringing it in with the fader I will leave the fader at the top and use the gains to bring the track in or out. |
Interesting... |
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| Zild |
| For example, if I want two tracks to layer over each other, but with no EQ cuts it is much easier to slam the fader to the top with the gain all the way down and slowly bring in the track with the gain knob while slowly turning down the other gain knob to make room, so you don't lose the gain structure on the master output. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
For example, if I want two tracks to layer over each other, but with no EQ cuts it is much easier to slam the fader to the top with the gain all the way down and slowly bring in the track with the gain knob while slowly turning down the other gain knob to make room, so you don't lose the gain structure on the master output. |
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a go later on. :) |
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| superglo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
For example, if I want two tracks to layer over each other, but with no EQ cuts it is much easier to slam the fader to the top with the gain all the way down and slowly bring in the track with the gain knob while slowly turning down the other gain knob to make room, so you don't lose the gain structure on the master output. |
but with the gain all the way down, are you still able to hear it over your headphones ? |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by superglo
but with the gain all the way down, are you still able to hear it over your headphones ? |
I suppose that is when you have to really rely on your beatmatching and practice with this type of transition. :) I am definitely trying to get to the point where I don't need to listen to the incoming track in my headphones because I am that sure, in the mix, that it will be beatmatched proper. :D |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by superglo
but with the gain all the way down, are you still able to hear it over your headphones ? |
Don't kill it totally, and turn the volume up in the headphones. I'm constantly turning my headphones up or down depending on how I have my EQs or gains cut. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Don't kill it totally, and turn the volume up in the headphones. I'm constantly turning my headphones up or down depending on how I have my EQs or gains cut. |
Just did it on lunch break. Sounded funny, but I'm sure I need to practice it more then 1 try. :p |
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