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Something that has been bothering me... CDJ100's
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| J:\Digital |
I know that lots of people are fans of the CDJ1000MK2's... however, in almost 90% of the videos I have seen from psy-parties.. No matter who the DJ is (Astral Projection, Skazi, IM, Guy Salama, etc) I see them using CDJ 100's in combination with high end mixers like Allen & Heath, Tascam, Pioneer....
What gives? What is it about the 100's that seem to be so amazing for Psy DJ's that they opt out of bringing in 1000's and get the 100's for a show.... and these parties I have been watching are HUGE venues.. It's not like they can't afford to bring in some 1000's... What am I missing in the spec sheet for the 100's that is soo tempting??
Can anybody help me??? It's driving me bonkers trying to wrap my head around this... |
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| Jeremy H |
Nice thread!
I've actually thought about this a couple of times too.. would be nice if someone could give an explanation! :)
Are any of the built-in effects on them used alot`? That could be a reason.. |
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| skip |
| i'll trade mine for some cdj-1000's (mk whatever) if some craz psy head wants to trade! :D |
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
It would be interesting to see if they switch to the cdj200s.
My guess is the same as Jeremy's; the effects. |
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| DannyO |
| The effects the CDJ100s have are Zip, Wah and Jet, I don't listen to as many psy mixes as J:\D, but I don't recall ever hearing these effects in a set...yet, I am also curious aswell, only thing I can think of is that they really are all they need so they don't care for 1000s, or maybe theres some kind of hidden special feature we all haven't noticed all these years.:conf: |
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| Allied Nations |
Oh man, this is easy!
CDJ-100s are cheap. Cheap means more money for other "party favors"
Plus, I've never seen a psy dj really do anything insane behind a console (non live act of course) other than mix psy flawlessly. Psy isnt a genre that really is ed with live like house...
My scale of how much a dance genre gets ed with. (From lots to little)
1. Hip hop/dnb/breaks (a la turtablism) should i say more?
2. Techno, synonymous with 3+ decks
3. House, likes to be ed with a lot, efx, layering tunes, loops, a capellas.. House is easy to do all this with
4. "prog house", less and less... the songs are fuller, less room to mess around
5. "prog trance/trance" (tiesto, armin, pvd, etc), even more so than prog house
6. psy, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much going on to mess around too much.
And really lets face it.. psy djs are used to ty consoles because of money/location issues.
I recently saw psychotic micro (fairly big name in the chemical crew) playing on a behringer 7000 (The one that looks like the djm500/600) and a denon 4000 dual cd.
Also, psy djs are less diva like and don't demand as much as lots of other djs because 1. they dont care 2. they probably wont get it anyways.
This is all my opinion, and i am fairly regular in the psy scene here, which is VERY active. :) |
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| YuVaL |
Almost all the psy-djs you mentioned are israeli.
the CDJ 100's have become standard over the years here in israel.
Plus, the CDJ 1000's here are really expensive. Now when you go out to psy venues and do them outdoors, you rather have a CDJ100 go bad and not a 1000, which costs double the money. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
It would be interesting to see if they switch to the cdj200s.
My guess is the same as Jeremy's; the effects. |
I saw Neuromotor play on two cdj200s and a djm600....
I believe he brought them to the gig himself... |
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| spit_heron |
well the wah is just a filter, and the jet can be fun during breakdowns, but prob not so much in psy.
i just updated my 100 to two 200 and pio really stepped up the quality of this little cd deck for around the same money.
0.02% is a dream after playing around with 0.10% for so long. and the loop and beat cutter can be fun.
infinite beat cut plus jet effect ftw. |
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| Soliman |
J:/Digital and dannyO havn't seen u too in a long time to what do we owe this honor?
anyway i think like stated above due to the location of psy events it better to break a cdj100 than a cdj1000 |
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| J:\Digital |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
Oh man, this is easy!
CDJ-100s are cheap. Cheap means more money for other "party favors"
And really lets face it.. psy djs are used to ty consoles because of money/location issues.
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I can't see money being the one of the top reasons:conf: All the clips/vids I have seen recently are on Parties that are on a LARGE scale.. I am not talking like your 300-500 person Beachside Psy party.. I am talking like 6000-10000 person, massive stage/sound setup, multiheadliner dj list.. etc etc.. Would it really put a promoter that much out of pocket to give the DJ's something solid like the 1000's... |
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| richg101 |
maybe their simplicity and brilliant antishock has allowed them to last. so would not require replacement...
0.1 pitch is fine for live, non studio mixes imo. quick loading...
id rather use some bog standard 100's than any other non pioneer cd player.. |
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