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Help with Parametric EQ...
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| PlasticSoul |
I didnt find some useful (for me) threads about the parametric EQ, so I was wondering if somebody could help me, and maybe others that have questions about it, too...
For example, how proper eq the instruments, like kick, hihat, leads, etc... to get a "clean" sound...
if u ve some good tutorial for it, for example, what frequencies to mess with each sound in the track, I'm glad, if there are a better thread about this, tell me and I'll delete this...
I'm posting this cus my only problem is eq and mixing my tracks, so I get a bit shy to send it to others... maybe I'm silly, heheh...
Very thanks...
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| DJ Shibby |
Kick: 80Hz-sub oomph, 250Hz-kicks body, 500Hz, 1500Hz-clickier
hihat: 250Hz-roll off, 3000Hz-clearer if ducked a little, 8000+13000-brightness
Bassline: 50 to 500-duck for kick presence, 1000/1500-midbass presence, duck as appropriate from 3000Hz and up to give clarity to the leads/pads/hats/percs/etc
Leads: Whatever works to fit it in the mix; duck a little for kick and hats
Pads: cut where it muddies other important elements, boost where you need the spectrum filled a bit.
Basically, there is no real solution, but those are some basics to start molding the mix while you compose it. Just keep in mind that too much EQ will ruin perfectly good instruments and make them digital crap, and basically you are looking to duck slightly the instruments that play simultaneously and may unnecessarily muddy each other in a certain frequency range (just toss a spectrum analyzer on your master channel and solo each instrument to visually see where you need to make modifications, then slide the faders that apply until you hear it "hit" that sweet spot.)
Boosting isn't suggested, since ducking is more natural sounding. Duck in small amounts usually (0.1-0.4dB) so that it curves gently into the change.
k cheers, good luck. |
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| PlasticSoul |
| thanks dj! ;) |
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| tecnolover |
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Kick-HP at 60hz, raise back up to 0db @40hz with a narrow notch filter high Q.
Bassline-HP at 60-80hz if bassline plays on off beat (ie. not sounding simultaneously with kick). On beat basslines requires a higher roll off freq or a notch to allow the kick through. Side chain compression or ducking also is good. Personally, i always program dance/trance basslines to sound on the off beat at least with the low bass notes.
After you get your kick and bassline Eq'd properlly and the relationship is perfect don't mess with it! And you don't want any of the other tracks interfering with that low end relationship so what I do is this...
-assign all other channels (pads, synth leads, vocals, everything!) to a separate buss/group channel.
-insert a 1 or 2 band parametric on the channel. set a high pass filter at 200hz.
That should keep everything out of that area nicely. Sometimes I'll double up (chain) the filters even thereby steepening the roll off slope even more. Keeps the lowend clean.
good luck |
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| qiushiming |
| good thread...thanks guys |
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| JustinMead |
| I like to do what sounds best. But thats also why my is, well :D |
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| Terry Barker |
| cool stuff, im the one the finger points to for too much hi end... better start remastering :p |
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| tecnolover |
| It could be what you are monitoring with. If it UNDER emphasizes the high end then your mixes will be high end "rich". This is why you want accurate and quite flat monitors. |
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| PlasticSoul |
humm....thanks again people...
one more question, what's the diff. among:
low shelf, peaking, high shelf
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I've to eq these three too? |
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| Chronosis |
| quote: | Originally posted by tecnolover
Kick-HP at 60hz, raise back up to 0db @40hz with a narrow notch filter high Q.
Bassline-HP at 60-80hz if bassline plays on off beat (ie. not sounding simultaneously with kick).
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Result = bass-light mixes.
| quote: | Originally posted by PlasticSoul
one more question, what's the diff. among:
low shelf, peaking, high shelf
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Google!
http://www.arboretum.com/support/ma...oc_filters.html |
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| RiCo |
| EQing is like putting a puzzle together. Think of the frequencies (pieces)...you need to take clashing ones out (make the grooves in the pieces) so all of them can fit together in the spectrum (whole puzzle). There's no specific formula for EQing...just those general guidelines that experienced folks put out, but they're not definitive, because, once you start adding effects, layers, and stuff, things change. |
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| tecnolover |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chronosis
Result = bass-light mixes.
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Certainly as the last post said there is no one formula to perfect EQin'g. 60-80hz HP for the bassline is a very good starting point I've found. Fine tune to taste. I've found it nearly perfect for most bass sounds and IMO it isn't bass-light. What it is, is clean and keeps the whole kick/bass transition clean. The last mix i finished I set the HP at 50hz. It will vary depending on the bass sound and how much low freq rumble it has ofcourse. Samples and synths sound characteristics will vary. |
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