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This is legal? How?! (pg. 3)
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| kadomony |
| check out some of the experiences on Belladona |
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| Sunsnail |
| ah ha! I will soon experience this plant. :) |
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| nickpdx |
DO NOT do brugmansia...it's chemically related to datura. Both of them are in the Solanaceae family (as well as belladona, and even things like tomatoes, potatos, some peppers, and tobacco). It would not be an enjoyable experience and unlike most psychedelics, there is an extremely high chance of actually doing severe damage to yourself.
Datura and brugmansia are pretty (and easy) plants to grow though. :D
Brugmansia:
Datura:
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
d0 it! |
well, ok |
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| superglo |
do it.
get someone to film you
post it on the core. |
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| Absolut_Vodka |
lol...never heard of this stuff before
| quote: | | The television melted and crumbled apart right in front of me and i turned in my seat to complain to my psychiatrist person loudly, 'Do you ing people know, that your television just melted?' which she recorded calmly onto her notepad. |
| quote: | | if I hadn't taken so much, I think it would have been alot more pleasureable, but oh well. I got annihilated |
cracked me up |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by fitom tiel
What is it, Ayahuasca? |
I've had real ayahuasca in the ecuadorian amazon. :p |
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| tranceaddict991 |
| my friend tried this once a few years back, had to go home early ended up punchin his mom in the face and had no idea he did it till the next day, id stay away from it |
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| nickpdx |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
well, ok |
Not to sound bitchy or anti-drug (I'm actually extremely in favor of psychedelic usage), but I would really advise not using it. Even Erowid pretty much discourages it:
"Datura / Solanaceae Dosage
by Erowid
As a general rule, Erowid neither recommends nor discourages the use of any psychoactive, however, in the case of tropane alkaloid-containing Solanaceae plants, we think it is important to note that an overwhelming majority of those who describe to us their use of Datura (and to a lesser extent, Belladonna, Brugmansia and Brunfelsia) find their experiences extremely mentally and physically unpleasant and not infrequently physically dangerous.
There is no way to guess a reasonable dose, because potency of the plant material itself and appropriate dose for an individual appear to vary so much. The question of what "reasonable" means for something that so often leads to such ridiculously negative effects is hard to say.
As an admixture plant in some traditional ayahuasca brews, smoking blends, or other preparations, parts of these plants are generally used in very low doses. Because of the serious adverse consequences associated with tropane alkaloids (scopolamine, atropine, hyoscyamine) intoxication and the wide variation in doses used, we are unwilling to even speculate about specific dosages for the leaves, flowers, and seeds of these plants.
If you are considering ingesting Datura-group plants, please read extensively from the collected experience reports and never take them without a reliable, sober sitter who understands the likely health issues and who can stop you from walking in front of traffic. Please note that fatalities from ingesting Datura do occur and hospitalizations seem to be quite common, in spite of the relatively low rates of psychoactive use of these plants."
"For thousands of years on all inhabited continents the belladonna alkaloids have been a tool of shamans and sorcerers, who take advantage of the sensations they evoke to leave their bodies, soar through the air, or change into an animal in their imagination. They also produce toxic organic symptoms like headache, dry throat, loss of motor control, blurred vision, and greatly increased heart rate and and body temperature; death from paralysis and respiratory may occur.
The belladonna alkaloids are so terrifying and incapacitating - the physical effects often so unpleasant, and the loss of contact with ordinary reality so complete - that they are used only with great caution and rarely for pleasure. For the same reasons, ironically, they are not regarded as a drug abuse problem and can be bought in small doses on perscription or in over-the-counter sedatives and pills for asthma, colds, and motion sickness."
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| Ripped Bag |
| When the law doesn't come in to play common sense and safety precautions do. However I'm sure Darwin will take care of those who throw caution to the wind. |
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