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Afghan on trial for Christianity (pg. 2)
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| George Smiley |
| Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East!!! |
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| Purple |
In India if a Hindu converts to be a Muslim, he is deserted by the society, his parents and his freinds.
Sometimes the mob even manage to lynch him to death.
There are residential colonies where Muslims are not allowed to buy houses because they are 'non - vegetarian'.
And its not some one single incident, its a normal norm. |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
In India if a Hindu converts to be a Muslim, he is deserted by the society, his parents and his freinds.
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I think that would happen to most of us if we converted to Islam considering current world events. I could just imagine saying "Mom, I'll be back in a month, I'm going to Mecca". |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
In India if a Hindu converts to be a Muslim, he is deserted by the society, his parents and his freinds.
Sometimes the mob even manage to lynch him to death.
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I recenly heard about murders that occour in India where the women is killed, if her family doesn't cough up enough money for her future husband. What is that called? How often does it happen? and is it the Muslim population or the Hindus that commit such acts? |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamen DJ's
I recenly heard about murders that occour in India where the women is killed, if her family doesn't cough up enough money for her future husband. What is that called? How often does it happen? and is it the Muslim population or the Hindus that commit such acts? |
Its called 'Dowry Deaths'. It happens quit a lot in backward and middle class families, but seldom comes to light, the husband's family often get lose because of no evidence against him. He just burns her alive and claim it to be sucide or accident. :mad:
The girl family is supposed to give expensive gifts like car, electronic appliances and cash to the guy family. More the guy is educated, more is the dowry he gets. But things are changing slowly, nowadays if a girl dosent like the guy after marrige, she sents him to jail accusing him of torturing her for dowry. lol
But still 'Dowry Deaths' and abortion of child if she is a 'girl' is common among backward and middle class families.
Edit: It happens only among Hindu people. Muslims are the nicest and most cultured people. |
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| Lopitrance |
Sorry guys, I think this is barbaric too but my point was RELEVANT seeing as how despite being "freed" and "liberated" you CANT expect a country like Afghanistan to imediately jump on the western bandwagon, they need TIME to deal with their social "problems" and tendencies.
You're all crying and whinning over this, SUPRISE it's been going on LONG BEFORE Afghanistan was "freed" by Team America + Friends.
Lot of hypocrits who read these boards, and naive ones at that. Those who labeled my previous post as "irrelevant" or whatever, need to wake up and realize that NONE of you even knew the population of Afghanistan before the United States invaded, but all of a sudden just because Afghanistan is undergoing changes (progress for the better, I agree) they should behave identical to all western values? That's expecting too much, simple as that. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lopitrance
Sorry guys, I think this is barbaric too but my point was RELEVANT seeing as how despite being "freed" and "liberated" you CANT expect a country like Afghanistan to imediately jump on the western bandwagon, they need TIME to deal with their social "problems" and tendencies.
You're all crying and whinning over this, SUPRISE it's been going on LONG BEFORE Afghanistan was "freed" by Team America + Friends.
Lot of hypocrits who read these boards, and naive ones at that. Those who labeled my previous post as "irrelevant" or whatever, need to wake up and realize that NONE of you even knew the population of Afghanistan before the United States invaded, but all of a sudden just because Afghanistan is undergoing changes (progress for the better, I agree) they should behave identical to all western values? That's expecting too much, simple as that. |
I don't think anyone has mentioned that, or at least expects that.
You're right, it's not going to happen overnight.
I know I've mentioned numberous times in countless posts that this whole process is going to take time... |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| There's one important difference between Afghanistan and India, and that is that in India such barbaric rituals are mostly illegal, while in Afghanistan they obviously aren't just legal, they're endorsed by the state. So while it's true that you can't change a culture overnight, India is at least trying, while Afghanistan seems to be more or less satisfied with its current state of affairs. |
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| Lopitrance |
| I dont think India is the best comparisson, as since the 1700s (maybe before) there's been strong British (Western) influence there, India was quick to change yes, but it was also held at gunpoint by the British Empire for HOW long? |
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| Shamen DJ's |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
Its called 'Dowry Deaths'. It happens quit a lot in backward and middle class families, but seldom comes to light, the husband's family often get lose because of no evidence against him. He just burns her alive and claim it to be sucide or accident. :mad:
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That's horrible. It's rarely heard of hear, and most likely never happens here. I just remember seeing something about it on a news special a few years ago. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lopitrance
I dont think India is the best comparisson, as since the 1700s (maybe before) there's been strong British (Western) influence there, India was quick to change yes, but it was also held at gunpoint by the British Empire for HOW long? |
Well in that case name a country that hasn't been under a strong western influence for at least some period of its history. Regardless of that, western influence isn't really the issue here, because the colonial empires weren't liberal democracies trying to spread the idea of equality around the world, they were just there to suck the money and resources out of their colonies and couldn't really care less about local customs. It is also absolutely irrelevant whether the influence is western or not, what is relevant is which system has proven itself to work the best, and it happens to be the western one. It of course does have its own flaws, but overall it does seem to work way better than feudalism, theocracy, or the caste system. India has recognized that and is moving forward at a pretty admireable pace. Afghanistan unfortunately hasn't, though the reasons why that country is so screwed up are not exclusively of internal nature. |
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