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Harmonic Mixing How-To (Sasha, Armin Van Buuren mixing technique) (pg. 3)
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| nennon |
Dear All,
Here are some Frequently Asked Questions from the forums:
1. What does Mixed In Key do if, say a track ends up halfway between a and b flat, does it "snap" it to the nearest key?
Mixed In Key works by finding the most common key in a song. For example, if 80% of the song is A-minor and 20% is C-major (relative major key), Mixed In Key will report the overall key as A-minor.
However, if you were asking about what happens when the song is out-of-key, I have a different answer for you. For example, if the song is between A and B-Flat, Mixed In Key will say that the song is out-of-key. The algorithm does this now, but we're going through some growing pains and this information not yet shown in the results panel. However, you can see that this feature exists by looking at the XML file. This file can be viewed with Internet Explorer or Notepad. We've had several requests for this feature and it will be added in a future update. Mixed In Key can automatically detect when a new version is available and update the software (while keeping your existing Key Collection intact). In fact, if you ever choose to uninstall this software, you will not lose your Key Collection.
2. Could you just queue loads of files and analyze them all at once?
Yes, this was the main purpose of the application. You can add as many WAV and MP3 files as you like. You can also queue entire Folders with one click. For example, I selected my C:\Music\ folder at lunchtime and came back two hours later. Mixed In Key processed 600 songs in various subfolders (I usually organize my collection by time of purchase and key)
3. What if a tune changes key halfway through the song? Does Mixed In Key give you the keys throughout the duration of the tune?
Mixed In Key can detect the best key for different parts of the song. For example, my personal favorite is 3 parts -- Beginning, Middle and End of the song. This really helps me with scenarios where the key changes after the break. However, the default installation is configured to analyze the entire song and display one key. We can easily change this in a free update, we're currently working on the best way to display N-number of keys for every song. Our application design is very clean, and we like to keep it that way. There is no need for clutter -- Mixed In Key does one job, and it does it very well. |
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| r5a |
Just an FYI (alt. for others):
There is an another program for free.
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- Click software. |
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| paranoik0 |
| i don't have anything against apps that make dj'ing easier, progress is the future and dj's are overrated anyway, but 58$ for this kind of app?! that's barely reasonable if it had a success rate of 99.9% of tracks, which lets just say i don't have high hopes for. |
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| ThaMaestro |
| quote: | Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
The DJ is important? |
yes, the dj is imoprtant. he makes (or doesnt make) the set. with this software, its nice to get a grip when mixing is hard in the begin, but you're becoming 70% less DJ i think. the mixing is gone, live-elements fade away .... its all software which is taking over (2 bad :rolleyes: ). this program has the same thing as ableton does, beatmatching 2 or more tracks together. there's nothing left for the dj then to press a button at a certain point. a shame for the name/profession DJ, when its used wrong. with wrong i mean that the beatmatching/mixing is not done by the dj anymore ...
thats my point of view. any criticism is welcome, feel free to discuss this! |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
yes, the dj is imoprtant. he makes (or doesnt make) the set. with this software, its nice to get a grip when mixing is hard in the begin, but you're becoming 70% less DJ i think. the mixing is gone, live-elements fade away .... its all software which is taking over (2 bad :rolleyes: ). this program has the same thing as ableton does, beatmatching 2 or more tracks together. there's nothing left for the dj then to press a button at a certain point. a shame for the name/profession DJ, when its used wrong. with wrong i mean that the beatmatching/mixing is not done by the dj anymore ... |
sorry, but that's gotta be one of the biggest piles of bull i've read lately.
the mixing is gone??!! this program beatmatches 2 tracks together like ableton??!! what the flying . this program supposedly just gives a hint to dj's on what tracks should work out with each other, AND THAT'S IT. it's not a button that you click and returns a set automatically.
and i'm all for keeping the beatmatching away from the dj's. if a computer can do it (and do it very well), why the should we hand the job to a human? dj's can concentrate on other tasks, like trying to actually change the music live if they are able to. if they don't have the skills to do anything more than beatmatching, why the should they be idolatrised like they are nowadays? it's actually great that it makes the DJ profession ridiculous, maybe then we'll be able to praise the guys that make the music instead of those that just play it. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
sorry, but that's gotta be one of the biggest piles of bull i've read lately.
the mixing is gone??!! this program beatmatches 2 tracks together like ableton??!! what the flying . this program supposedly just gives a hint to dj's on what tracks should work out with each other, AND THAT'S IT. it's not a button that you click and returns a set automatically.
and i'm all for keeping the beatmatching away from the dj's. if a computer can do it (and do it very well), why the should we hand the job to a human? dj's can concentrate on other tasks, like trying to actually change the music live if they are able to. if they don't have the skills to do anything more than beatmatching, why the should they be idolatrised like they are nowadays? it's actually great that it makes the DJ profession ridiculous, maybe then we'll be able to praise the guys that make the music instead of those that just play it. |
in A man, well said. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| There are websites out there with big lists of keys for dance record so DJs who can't tell by ear can mix melodically. |
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| justin |
don't know how I feel about technology taking over parts of djing that makes it a challenge and gives a dj who does it soley as a hobby hours and hours of pleasure at experimenting with records. Although it could be a helpful tool to a dj that plays out frequently to large crowds but at a house party or bedroom djing why would you need this. It's a shame that given the resources of these days that a dj isn't required to have nearly the amont of skill that was once required back when composers like György Ligeti and so forth were making giant strides in the Electronic Music World.What the big deal with this anyhow.
I say that if you can't do it by ear than you havn't got the talent it takes and maybe you should consider other options instead of djing. A product like this only gives a sense of false hope to those who really havn't got any musical aptitude. Kudos to the guy who made the program but anybody using it for djing purposes should be shot.
just my opinion |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by justin
Kudos to the guy who made the program but anybody using it for djing purposes should be shot. |
Feel free to shoot Sasha and Armin then.
(not like they are using exactly this program, but the harmonic mixing technique) |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
Feel free to shoot Sasha and Armin then.
(not like they are using exactly this program, but the harmonic mixing technique) |
Well its not like they (Sasha atleast) havn't paid their dues spinning wax when none of this was even on the horizon. |
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| justin |
| quote: | Originally posted by justin
don't know how I feel about technology taking over parts of djing that makes it a challenge and gives a dj who does it soley as a hobby hours and hours of pleasure at experimenting with records. Although it could be a helpful tool to a dj that plays out frequently to large crowds but at a house party or bedroom djing why would you need this. |
I'll be sure to include this in my book intitled 100,000,000 Reasons Why Certain People Should Be Shot |
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