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My guide on bass mixing (pg. 2)
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| Diginerd |
Ok, I'm going to chime in here.
Has anyone bothered to listen to his stuff over on the promotions forum? I bet it's better than most people sniping at him, and very very releaseable.
Admittedly delivery could be better, but let's have some sense prevail.. |
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| skot_e |
| Haven't listened to any other stuff but checkin that link now and I like! Releaseable indeed. |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by globalwarming
the only reason i posted this thred was because someone here asked me |
Yea. Exactly. Me. So don't be such a douche BOOOOOOOOOOOster.
:o
I am learning slowly. And while his post MIGHT be redundant. No need to get so sassy.
I'll find that mixing bass sticky somewhere, but for now I appreciate his help.
Tnx again global warming. |
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| BOOsTER |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJFreaq
Yea. Exactly. Me. So don't be such a douche BOOOOOOOOOOOster.
:o
I am learning slowly. And while his post MIGHT be redundant. No need to get so sassy.
I'll find that mixing bass sticky somewhere, but for now I appreciate his help.
Tnx again global warming. |
I didnt want to sound like a dick I just wanted to point out that it's already quite a general knowledge...and someone might smash the thread starter harder...
globalwarming (thread starter): please excuse...I didn't want to sound as harsh as I definitely did, it's nice that you share your experience, thumbs up :) |
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| globalwarming |
| quote: | Originally posted by BOOsTER
I didnt want to sound like a dick I just wanted to point out that it's already quite a general knowledge...and someone might smash the thread starter harder...
globalwarming (thread starter): please excuse...I didn't want to sound as harsh as I definitely did, it's nice that you share your experience, thumbs up :) |
hey booster, its ok man..
but only for you to know, it wasnt such general knowledge to me.. i found out about this 1 month ago, it happend because i accidently put one of my arms under my monitors... i felt bass beats with stops, then i decided to check on one of my tracks and felt no stops of the bass.
The thing is that i produce for more than 7 years already!
And i released tracks on preety big compilations, they were all with this bass mistake. thats why i think that if I didnt know that fact, many other producers dont know it either... got my point? |
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| BOOsTER |
| quote: | Originally posted by globalwarming
hey booster, its ok man..
but only for you to know, it wasnt such general knowledge to me.. i found out about this 1 month ago, it happend because i accidently put one of my arms under my monitors... i felt bass beats with stops, then i decided to check on one of my tracks and felt no stops of the bass.
The thing is that i produce for more than 7 years already!
And i released tracks on preety big compilations, they were all with this bass mistake. thats why i think that if I didnt know that fact, many other producers dont know it either... got my point? |
yeah cool, I also noticed this on some commercially released tracks though...now as you say I finally know what is it that some tracks are so fu*king bassheavy...strange stuff :) everyone knows it, but not everyone does that... good point! :)
*hat off* |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
Imagine being a sub in a nightclub.
bet by the end of the night you are shafted.... |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Imagine being a sub in a nightclub.
bet by the end of the night you are shafted.... |
Hah! I'll bet.
I'm still experimenting. And still having a hard time getting it.
I understand that in electronic music especially your bassline and kick have the most acoustical energy in the entire track. And naturally they want to be louder. The easy way to mix bass/kick is the standard:
X---X---X---X--- kick
--X---X---X---X- bass
But in my own mixes. I am still finding it difficult where to even out with my basslines and kicks. Because NO ONE now a days wants the cheesy OOOMPAH OOOMPAH sound, unless it's very well done (listen to Zero Six After, you'll get what I mean).
So what do you mean exactly by "starting off" your kick at 30hz. And "starting off" your bassline at a 100Hz.
Do you use a highpass filter on your bassline at around 100hz? And do you do any parametic cuts on your kick around the 100hz range, or boosts at the 30hz range?
I've been reading a bunch of tutorials, and while I've been producing for a good 5 years now, (only the last 2 have been rather serious), I'm STILLL LEARRNING. Thanks again globalwarming.
So any more thoughts would be appreciated. Sorry for jumping all over you booster; I know what you mean. A lot of pigs on here would have just jumped all over him a lot worse!
---Adam |
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| funkysouls |
How do u make that bass that runs in the background along with the pads to create tension..
I exactly dont know how to explain it but the one which runs good with the pads. |
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| BOOsTER |
it's possible you mean the famous rolling the bassline
K---K---K---K
XxxxXxxxXxxxX
K = Kick
X = higher octave bassline
x = lower octave bassline
let's say your bass note is C
you'll use C1 as xxx note and C2 as the "X" note. Hope you got it now :)
I'm not sure what you mean though, maybe a sample could help :)
@DJFreaq: no prob, peace mate ;) |
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| globalwarming |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJFreaq
So what do you mean exactly by "starting off" your kick at 30hz. And "starting off" your bassline at a 100Hz.
Do you use a highpass filter on your bassline at around 100hz? And do you do any parametic cuts on your kick around the 100hz range, or boosts at the 30hz range?
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i use parametric eq and cut the 0-40hz of the kick (more or less)
and then cut the 0-85hz of the bassline (also more or less)
that way i reserve the 40-79hz (the sub frequancies) only to the kick. and not both. this whay creats the pumping beat instead of overfull with bass beat.
and about the "pad bass", just take a bass sound and cut all the frequancies until you have only his midrange (0-400hz more or less)
this way you get:
1. the bassline
2. this "pad bassline"
and they dont f*ck with each other..
hope this would help! |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by globalwarming
i use parametric eq and cut the 0-40hz of the kick (more or less)
and then cut the 0-85hz of the bassline (also more or less)
that way i reserve the 40-79hz (the sub frequancies) only to the kick. and not both. this whay creats the pumping beat instead of overfull with bass beat. |
See, this kind of stuff fascinates me. Because you'd think 10hz or so wouldn't matter all that much. But esentially your building the low end of your track from the ground up.
But why would you cut the 0-40hz range of the kick? Don't you want a lot of low-end on your kick? Sure you get it with the 40-79hz range. But is there so much energy in those low-end sounds that it's okay to get rid of anything below 40 hz on average? Cuz everytime I make EQ moves like that I feel like a lose some low-end in my tracks. (i probably need better headphones, although my alesis speakers are quite bassheavy so who knows).
Granted anything below the 20-25Hz range is pretty useless acoustical info (most speakers can't output it truely etc). But anyway. I digress. Sorry If I seem like i'm picking your brains. But you've definately got some SOLID tracks which are well mixed. And it's not often I get to talk to people who actually know what they're doing (for the most part ;) winnnnk).
There are plenty of knowledgeable threads and people on these boards but I rarely get to look at anything but old convos that brush, but never hone in on exactly what I'm looking for.
--Adam |
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