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Cdj 200 & 1000
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| Akazi |
i was thinking, isnt the pioneer cdj 200 better than the cdj 1000?
i mean i played with 1000 and im not saying that theyr bad or anything, its just that with 1000 you have the 3 hot cues the loop and the scratch function, not alot of edm djs use the 3 hot cues, the loop and the scratch is used but not that often thou.
on the cdj 200 you have the jet the zip the wah effects, the loop and the beat cutter. jet, zip, wah are used quite often imo, the loop is used too the beat cutter is mad mad thing. overall its mad machine, in my oppinion even madder than the 1000. if the 200 would have a scratch function then deffinately it would be the unbeatable machine, but on the other hand what for, not alot of people use it anyway.
so what im trying to say is, shouldnt the cdj 200 be standart in clubs? shouldnt it be considerd as a better cdj?
im curious about everyones oppinions here, please say what you think about this. |
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| Boomer187 |
| no, teh 1000 has a more accurate pitch, and its not a scratch feature, its vinyl mode, there are more uses than scratching. Plus the feel of the wheel is wayyy better ona 1000, its not that great ono the 200. |
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| Akazi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
no, teh 1000 has a more accurate pitch, and its not a scratch feature, its vinyl mode, there are more uses than scratching. Plus the feel of the wheel is wayyy better ona 1000, its not that great ono the 200. |
deffinately, i agree with you on the feel, it is much much better than the 200 but functions wise, isnt the 200 comming with much more usable functions?
pitch wise the 1000 is better too, much accurate, i agree on that too! |
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| djshtr |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
no, teh 1000 has a more accurate pitch, and its not a scratch feature, its vinyl mode, there are more uses than scratching. Plus the feel of the wheel is wayyy better ona 1000, its not that great ono the 200. |
No.
CDJ1000 and CDJ200 both have 0.02% pitch.
The CDJ800 has 0.05%. |
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| Axolotyl |
Still dont see what use a scratch feature is when mixing trance? I had DNS5000's with full spinning platter and never used it so I sold them to get CDJ200's. They cant be beat in my book, even by the 1000's. The fx are actually really usefull, they have the same .02% pitch as the 1000's and the autoloop function is great and very usable on the fly.
The only thing the 1000's have over the 200's is the larger platter and they looks quite sexy. Oh and the waveform display, which comes in handy. Not worth three times as much money though omho... |
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
There are probably many reasons cdjs are club standard.
To become standard features are not very important its all about how well they can stand up against smoke, prolonged usage and beatings from voilent angry djs. The cdj is still new and you most likely will start finding them in clubs and bars but for a dj who has never used cds before the cdj1000 will probably be simpler. Thats just my opinion. |
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| wee_rooney |
and not all edm djs are as narrow minded as you lot!
theres more to mixing than beatmatchin and eq'in! |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
There are probably many reasons cdjs are club standard.
To become standard features are not very important its all about how well they can stand up against smoke, prolonged usage and beatings from voilent angry djs. The cdj is still new and you most likely will start finding them in clubs and bars but for a dj who has never used cds before the cdj1000 will probably be simpler. Thats just my opinion. |
Could be that, but agian spend 700 $ more for the CDJ-1000, I think they are over priced.
If I buy a CDJ -1000, I could buy instead 3 CDJ-200. |
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| Basstard |
| and they'll probably last 6 months in a club environment |
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| Ryan0751 |
Nah, the reason they are the "club standard" is because when Pioneer introduced them in 2000 (2001?), they were the only tabletop CD deck that worked really well. And the "digital vinyl" mode was quite innovative for the time.
And Pioneer has been riding that wave ever since... they ARE great players, but they ARE now way overpriced given other manufacturers offerings.
The 1000's are known to be fairly reliable, but they DO still break down. The cue and play buttons are known to eventually fail, and the switch that detects pressure on the platter sometimes can break.
Set a 1000 next to the 200, and it's not really a huge difference in "feel". I have a Xone 92, and that thing feels like a tank (as do my 1200's). I was pretty dissapointed when I first got my 1000's, because they feel "plasticy". The Denon 3500's feel much better in my opinion, but I haven't really spent enough time playing on them to determine whether they are as good for mixing.
As for having the "scratch" (vinyl mode) on the 1000's, I DO find it nice for cueing and such, rather than using the stutter mode. But is it worth $700 more? Not really.
I'd recommend that newcomers take a good look at the 200's, and if they want to spend a little more and get a lot more for their money, look at the Denon DN-S3500.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
There are probably many reasons cdjs are club standard.
To become standard features are not very important its all about how well they can stand up against smoke, prolonged usage and beatings from voilent angry djs. The cdj is still new and you most likely will start finding them in clubs and bars but for a dj who has never used cds before the cdj1000 will probably be simpler. Thats just my opinion. |
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| Akazi |
i heard that the cdj 200s are more damage resistant than the 1000s.
yeah the 1000s are way too expensive for what they have to offer. i played with denon dns 5000 theyr good, theyr very good, the alfa mode and the loops and samples and stuff and the effects. but the only thing i dont like on the 5000 is that they are not direct drive... i dont know the 3000 denons but i assume its kinda the same withouth that much functions. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Actually the 3500's have "different" functions than the 5000. First, the platter really does feel amazing. It's nice and heavy, solid, and there is a LOT of torque. I'm not a scratch person, but it seemed really nice to me.
Second, they lose the alpha track capability, but gain a number of effects. I'd think the effects would be more useful for most of us than the alpha track.
| quote: | Originally posted by Akazi
i heard that the cdj 200s are more damage resistant than the 1000s.
yeah the 1000s are way too expensive for what they have to offer. i played with denon dns 5000 theyr good, theyr very good, the alfa mode and the loops and samples and stuff and the effects. but the only thing i dont like on the 5000 is that they are not direct drive... i dont know the 3000 denons but i assume its kinda the same withouth that much functions. |
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