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human rights org has proof of secret CIA torture flights
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| josh4 |
okay, not really proof.. actually theres no real physical evidence either.. a plane stoped at Guantanamo a couple of times.. thats all they really have is flight logs.. they interviewed a bunch of people too though...
| quote: | CIA flights: Amnesty accuses U.S.
LONDON, England (CNN) -- The CIA has used private aircraft operators and front companies -- sometimes using European airspace -- to detain terror suspects at secret locations or transfer them to countries that condone torture, Amnesty International said in a report released Wednesday.
In a summary of "Below the radar: Secret flights to torture and 'disappearance,'" the humanitarian organization accuses the CIA of using the practice of "rendition," or illegally transferring people from one country to another to bypass judicial and administrative oversight.
Washington has denied that terror suspects are transferred to other nations to avoid U.S. and international laws on torture.
"The U.S. administration has tried to circumvent the ban on torture and other ill-treatment in many ways. The latest evidence shows how the administration is manipulating commercial arrangements in order to be able to transfer people in violation of international law," said Irene Khan, secretary-general of Amnesty International.
"It demonstrates the length to which the U.S. government will go to conceal these abductions," she said.
Amnesty International said it has records of nearly 1,000 flights directly linked to the CIA, most of which have used European airspace.
"These are flights by planes that appear to have been permanently operated by the CIA through front companies," the organization said. In addition, there are records of some 600 other flights made by planes confirmed as having been used at least temporarily by the CIA, the summary says.
The report details the destinations and ownerships of aircraft linked to people interviewed by Amnesty International who the group says have been transferred illegally.
The group said one aircraft made more than 100 stops in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the United States detains terror suspects.
Amnesty International said three Yemeni men believed they were taken by U.S. authorities to secret prisons following lengthy journeys through different climates and time zones.
The men said they were blindfolded during each transfer, but clues they provided indicated they may have been held in Djibouti in eastern Africa, Afghanistan and eastern Europe, Amnesty International group said.
President Bush signed a bill in late 2005 outlawing the torture of detainees, but he quietly reserved the right to bypass the law under his powers as commander in chief.
After approving the bill, Bush issued a "signing statement" -- an official document in which a president lays out his interpretation of a new law. In it, he said he will view the interrogation limits in the context of his broader powers to protect national security. This means Bush believes he can waive the restrictions, the White House and legal specialists said.
During the confirmation hearings for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, he said the administration believed that anti-torture laws and treaties do not restrict interrogators at overseas prisons because the U.S. Constitution does not apply abroad.
In March, The British government said private planes -- which the opposition believes were part of a CIA program to transfer terror suspects to countries where they could be tortured -- landed at military airfields.
Armed Forces Minister Adam Ingram said in a written response to a parliamentary question that two U.S. planes made 14 flights, landing at three British military airfields -- Northolt, Briz Norton and Lyneham -- between October 2002 and May 2004.
Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/e...y.us/index.html |
i guess, mostly, now more people have heard the name Amnesty International... |
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| LazFX |
| You are mistaken if you think this kind of crap is not happening. |
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| Lepanto |
| if it was, you wouldn't know about it. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
if it was, you wouldn't know about it. |
ha ha ha
yeah ok, :rolleyes: |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
ha ha ha
yeah ok, :rolleyes: |
ha ha ha
yeah ok :rolleyes:
you, ofcourse, have the clearance and access to all the info and locked and frozen files right? ;). pitiful kid. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
ha ha ha
yeah ok :rolleyes:
you, ofcourse, have the clearance and access to all the info and locked and frozen files right? ;). pitiful kid. |
yes he does...him along with everyone else who posts in the politcal room...they have all the secret information about the evil evil evil secret society orchestrated by Dick Cheny in the name of oil...they find most of the secrets from their partners, namely Chomsky, Zinn and Blum and trolling the secret websites that display all the wrong doings of bad bad bad America.
Funny thing is, if the above wasnt enough, they couldnt get one single indictment. Everything in this room is junk posted by angry liberal college sophmores who coudlnt tell you the first thing about the real world, despite their secret stash of hidden files and micro-films. Everything they post is philosophical rants of the retartded.;) |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
ha ha ha
yeah ok :rolleyes:
you, ofcourse, have the clearance and access to all the info and locked and frozen files right? ;). pitiful kid. |
ha ha ha Dude you are an idiot,
First off I am not a kid,
Second, it would be naive to think that this has not happened. I am not saying a little tourture is wrong, in fact, if someone knows that is going to happen, then I say pull thier fingernails out and find the truth.
So back off lil buddy. |
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| Lepanto |
| so i'm an idiot because you're older but act like a 12 year old and contridict yourself...good job ;) |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
so i'm an idiot because you're older but act like a 12 year old and contridict yourself...good job ;) |
How the hell do I contridict myself?? ALl i stated was that it was silly to think that this is not going on? Oh and based on a lot of your posts, you are an idiot. IMHO |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
yes he does...him along with everyone else who posts in the politcal room...they have all the secret information about the evil evil evil secret society orchestrated by Dick Cheny in the name of oil...they find most of the secrets from their partners, namely Chomsky, Zinn and Blum and trolling the secret websites that display all the wrong doings of bad bad bad America.
Funny thing is, if the above wasnt enough, they couldnt get one single indictment. Everything in this room is junk posted by angry liberal college sophmores who coudlnt tell you the first thing about the real world, despite their secret stash of hidden files and micro-films. Everything they post is philosophical rants of the retartded.;) |
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| metalgearsolid |
That was posted by someone else. No, really some PDD members are such s. Like Q5echo, pcKraistling and LAzFX. Like oooh I am too good for you little kids since I am in my 30's. Like really what the are you doing here in a forum with people still in college? HMMM this is where I am going to have to say get a life if your over 30.
Now back to tortue war is a horrible event where laws are not an issue. You do not know who the enemy is one day it can be a old man the next a ten yr old the best thing you can do is kill and torture all to the point where they will not be able to fight. I am sorry to say this but nobody here has experianced war so noone understands the mentality that a war brings. Its a necessity to be 'arbitary'.
I had a friend who went to Afghanistan(awhile ago) and he was forced to kill a bunch of children in a school classroom. Ok his superior officer told them to not ever say a thing about this but he ended up just telling me and his other good friend.
And if you look back in history you will see that torture is not something new and why exactly should you expect a warrior to be compassionate when you have unknown enemies all around you.
Gengis Khan killed everybody taller then a wheel's mid-point.
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
That was posted by someone else. No, really some PDD members are such s. Like Q5echo, pcKraistling and LAzFX. Like oooh I am too good for you little kids since I am in my 30's. Like really what the are you doing here in a forum with people still in college? HMMM this is where I am going to have to say get a life if your over 30.
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yeah I am 30 and so?? I Dj and have been doing so for the past 15 years, I come to this site to check on the latest tunes out there cause you kids are in the know. I also fequent other EDM sites as well, these types of sites are reallly good especially for the busy 30 year old that I am. :)
I post on this section for s and giggles, its fun to see you college kids so full of spunk.
I do have a life, a very well off and fun life,
But why am I explaining myself to some college age kid?? Yeah I was like you, thought I knew so much about the world and then I grew up and relized that I knew , and everything I learned in college was 50% B.S.
but don't take my old ass word for it, in a few years, you will see it our way, and then you will have some lil kid, tell you to get a life.
in the words of my generation's poets:
The teacher stands in front of the class
But the lesson plan he can't recall
The student's eyes don't perceive the lies
Bouncing off every ing wall
His composure is well kept
I guess he fears playing the fool
The complacent students sit and listen to some of that
Bull that he learned in school
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Enjoy spending your hard earned money for a worthless education. Life is the real classroom,
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