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Solidarity with my aboriginal warriors. We shall rise up and take back what is ours. (pg. 2)
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | | Quite honestly every single "first nation" person should be kissing our asses for not having killed them off 300 years ago. |
wow... |
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| Floorwhore |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
wow... |
X a gajillion. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| ^^^ it's crule but effective.... you don't hear anything about Aztec or Inca land claims do you? |
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| superIMPOSED |
dude chill out......they are not the only ones trying to get a piece of the pie in this world....yes there might be some things that need work in social assistance etc but you have to remember that they have not had it as EASY as you think. I think that a lack of education and not feeling like a 'true' Canadian but a 2nd rate citizen over the generations will do that to a community
CANADA is a great country because of the tolerance
if you don't like it perhaps move back to Serbia? otherwise please try to understand the situation.....too many people with views like that are going to turn this place into the US |
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| 5hiftn6ears |
they need to lay off the...
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by superIMPOSED
dude chill out......they are not the only ones trying to get a piece of the pie in this world....yes there might be some things that need work in social assistance etc but you have to remember that they have not had it as EASY as you think. I think that a lack of education and not feeling like a 'true' Canadian but a 2nd rate citizen over the generations will do that to a community
CANADA is a great country because of the tolerance
if you don't like it perhaps move back to Serbia? otherwise please try to understand the situation.....too many people with views like that are going to turn this place into the US |
Serbia? Where did that come from?
Listen up, if the "natives" feel like second rate citizens that's because they are and if they are it's because they have allowed themselves to become so. They need not remain on reservation, they are not forced to live off of assistance, these are choices. If they want to leave the reservation and get a job, earn a better life, become a regular citizen they are allowed to do so. Hell, if they want to remain on the reserve and get a job they can do so too and still receive all the benefits that come along with the Indian Act. Those that do seek a better life and attain it should be proud. Those that do not and believe that the country owes them everything their hearts desire are the ones that disgust me.
I really think the government needs to resolve this one and for all. Give the natives their self-govenment on the condition that they get a one time cash allowance per resident and no future assistance from the feds. They'll piss through that in no time (especially considering the wide spread corruption amongst the bands which even the counsel of first nations acknowledges as an epidemic) and burry themselves in debt. With no other options they'll be forced to sell the land and we can be done with this once and for all.... with the exception of perhaps the Cree in Quebec who own tons of resources and have embraced western society and the work ethic that comes along with it. |
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| superIMPOSED |
lol....sorry I thought you were Serbian and was trying to take a jab at you
The point I was trying to make is that you have to admnit they have not always been treated as equal, and like I said maybe I am making a bad assumption here but in general they lack education, hence difficult to get good work and become integrated into 'our' society Their overall view of life is not like yours, I am not saying they do not have opportunities to change but it will take time and patience from us. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | | if you don't like it perhaps move back to Serbia? |
i think you made mistake there. i have nothing against native nations, i totally understand their anger.
but that doesnt matter. that kind of mentality, "go back where you came from" or "The "First Nations" disgust me.... always reaching out for scraps and taking whatever they can" will be our downfall.
dont forget, we are all here for one reason and one reason only, to make sure our future is secure and future of our children.
serbian, iranian, native canadian...
whats the difference? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by superIMPOSED
lol....sorry I thought you were Serbian and was trying to take a jab at you
The point I was trying to make is that you have to admnit they have not always been treated as equal, and like I said maybe I am making a bad assumption here but in general they lack education, hence difficult to get good work and become integrated into 'our' society Their overall view of life is not like yours, I am not saying they do not have opportunities to change but it will take time and patience from us. |
Granted, they have not been treated as equal (sometimes to their benefit) and there have been horrible abuses in the past (such as the whole residential school debauchal), however, they are afforded the same opportunities as everybody else. The fact that they do not take advantage of those is their failing, not ours. Their inability to become intergrated into society is resultant of their decision not to participate in our society. More time is not what they need as they have had hundreds of years and things are getting progressively worse and it seems their focus and solution is to demand more and more hand outs. What they need is a crisis that will force them to a better life.... or they can continue to live as they do and watch their children kill themselves in ever increasing numbers with each successive generation. I'm fine with either. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Serbia? Where did that come from?
Listen up, if the "natives" feel like second rate citizens that's because they are and if they are it's because they have allowed themselves to become so. They need not remain on reservation, they are not forced to live off of assistance, these are choices. If they want to leave the reservation and get a job, earn a better life, become a regular citizen they are allowed to do so. Hell, if they want to remain on the reserve and get a job they can do so too and still receive all the benefits that come along with the Indian Act. Those that do seek a better life and attain it should be proud. Those that do not and believe that the country owes them everything their hearts desire are the ones that disgust me.
I really think the government needs to resolve this one and for all. Give the natives their self-govenment on the condition that they get a one time cash allowance per resident and no future assistance from the feds. They'll piss through that in no time (especially considering the wide spread corruption amongst the bands which even the counsel of first nations acknowledges as an epidemic) and burry themselves in debt. With no other options they'll be forced to sell the land and we can be done with this once and for all.... with the exception of perhaps the Cree in Quebec who own tons of resources and have embraced western society and the work ethic that comes along with it. |
cmon bro.
you remember couple months ago when guvernmet had to relocate couple thousands of native canadians cause they ignored their needs they didnt had drinking water??????" |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
cmon bro.
you remember couple months ago when guvernmet had to relocate couple thousands of native canadians cause they ignored their needs they didnt had drinking water??????" |
"cause they ignored their needs..." what are they children? What community other then a reservation cannot address it's own needs for something as basic as drinking water? Why was it that they couldn't solve the problem themselves.... oh yeah, because they needed money.... I wonder what they squandered their band infrastructure budget (given by the feds) on..... I bet the chief has a brand new SUV or the band has a nice new community centre. I guess compared to those things water really isn't that important. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
read more about that and you will see that you're wrong.
i see you made up your mind and there is no point arguing with ya so i'll stop now.
just remember, this is a nation of warriors and this will get uglier before it gets better.
you can screw somebody just that much. |
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