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| Dj Cola |
Hey, i tweaked this promising zeta preset a bit (the bassline is the tweaked one), i kinda like the sonds of the bassline..
but i keep feeling it makes the whole track really muddy/muffled or maybe even distorted?
dont mind the percussions..
is the alarm sound getting messed up by the bass?
LinK
Ps. there might be some filter issues with the alarm, watch your ears ;) |
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| DJFreaq |
That is indeed a pretty cool bassline. But it's a little confusing. I can see what you mean by it getting muddied.
Put a realtime analyzer on it. (I use Waves PAZ Analyzer) And see what frequency it's dominating.
Then put a realtime analyzer on your kick and see what frequency it's dominating.
I'm guessing you're familiar with that technique... but I'd throw it out there.
A good way to sort out mud is to EQ your kick and bass so they aren't sharing the same frequency range. Your ears are your best tool, but a RTA is a fantastic tool for sorting through mud.
I just looked at the MP3 in an RTA and your kick is pumping hard at 60hz. Dry doing a cut on your bassline at around the same frequency.
It sounds like a pretty good preset though. Keep it up man. |
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| Dj Cola |
thanks ;)
ill try doing that l8r on! |
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| Dj Cola |
doh, i forgot to save the tweaked preset...
im working on recovering it ^^,
i think its hopeless to try to recover it... i cant get the same sound again :(, but i found a nearly as cool sound though..
why does fruity wrapper tell me that "these settings were saved with a newer version" when i try to load my zeta stuff? |
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| cybernetica |
I try to help you on that issue, Mr Cola ;)
A good way to fatten up your kick and bass is to use a sonic maximizer on them, like the Waves L2 for example.
About the separation, its a good idea to do as DJFreaq said. I prefer to boost my kick at 80 Hz and my bass in the 50 Hz area, but it really depends on type of kick n bass. Then cut the frequencies vice versa. |
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| Dj Cola |
| thanks for the tips, too bad you couldnt help me with the "problem" though ;). |
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| Nemesis44 |
Hallå där Cola!
What you could try doing is sorting out the frequencies around 250 to 800 as that is the traditional muddiness zone.
The kick breaks through nicely so I don't think that it's the clash of the two.
I would also advise you to try and keep the kick sample envelope as short as possible.
Setting up of the effects channel.
Start with your filter. Set a high pass filter on the bass to around 80ish give or take just to give the kick some room in the low end.
Apply a 7band EQ and sculpt the sound to be how you want it remembering it's better to subtract frequencies rather than boost. (You can always boost the source volume.
Apply a parametric EQ that allows you to set both high and low roll off.
Reduce some of the frequencies around the 500 mark and you would find that this should reduce some of the mud.
Then Compress.
(Add delay if you feel it's needed, this can bring basslines to life but with the londer note basslines it can create mud).
Route to a separate channel where you will also route your kick and then compress once more.
Put a DB meter on this channel and make sure that when the kick plays (minus the bass) it peaks at about -6 to -8db. Then balance the bass and kick in this channel and make sure they work well together before you start adding the other elements back in (Naturally they will be in their own channels).
(EDIT- A maximizer is a good idea, but you really need to have tamed the sound before you apply this as it will only enhance what you have but not sort problems).
Cheers
Nem |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
(EDIT- A maximizer is a good idea, but you really need to have tamed the sound before you apply this as it will only enhance what you have but not sort problems).
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Exactly. Maximizers are all fun and games, but untill you have that mudd sorted out, throwing on a limiter will just increase the volume of the bad, as well as the good.
and usually with the bass range 150-250 hz = Hell
and also the 400-500hz range. Best way to get rid of a lil' tubbyness is to do a cut on that 400-500hz range.
Woot.
:) |
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| Dj Cola |
| thanks for the good tips guys! :) |
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