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| Dj_Es-Dva |
| im curious to know if anyone else out there ever produces in modes does anything else in terms of music theory, apart from playing the regular scales :rolleyes: |
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| Lindo |
| I'm totally confused on what you're asking... |
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| nhibberd |
I think your trying to ask if music production has turned into more of a technical sound tweaking thing than actualy spending time on cunjuring up a good melody and key progression.
I'v played guitare for 12 years now and am still taking lessons next to my trance music production. I have to say you are right, it is a whole different world. But none less challenging. Also a lot of trance has melody that is pure genious in my opinion, especialy uplifting and melodic trance.
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| Dj_Es-Dva |
yeah thats exactly what i meant, i dont feel that way about trance im sorry. thats why i respect progressive music more, it takes a bit more of a musical stance then your regular trance. they're difficult in different ways.
its funny ive got a mate who plays guitar as well, he helps me make my songs more musical, even though hes into rock and metal. |
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| nhibberd |
Actualy, come to think of. People say that Trance is often the same type of chord progression and scales but then presented in a whole different way. But now I think of it, so is Blues and Flamenco too quite often. But I think the reason for tis hasn't got much to do with the artist being narrow minded. More the fact that it can actualy sounds realy strange is you divert from the standard too much. It sometimes just doesn't work. Oh yeah, and standard Trance doesn't work for me either.
But rock is totaly different. For some reason a musical style has appeared where you can do the crazyest things and it still sounds ok. So imo the beauty of rock music lies in the flexibility musicaly and live performance ofcourse. And the beauty in elektronic music lies in the fact that an artist has months to completely perfect a sound i.s.o. a few sessions of 4 minutes for someone playing his guitare in the studio. |
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
| quote: | Originally posted by nhibberd
So imo the beauty of rock music lies in the flexibility musicaly and live performance ofcourse. And the beauty in elektronic music lies in the fact that an artist has months to completely perfect a sound i.s.o. a few sessions of 4 minutes for someone playing his guitare in the studio. |
Im not sure if your saying electronic music has live performance flexibility or not but if you want it to it does. Maybe not trance but with things like techno and breaks and towards those genres you can do some wicked mashing, cutting, stretching, flipping, looping and whatever you want live. Just watch the Exile video on the NI website.
I believe electronic is the most flexible of all music because.
1. It encases so many genres.
2. There are no limits what you can do, no limits at all. With synths and all kinds of effects there is not a sound you cannot creat.
3. You can do it live if you want, they even have midi guitars dont they. They might not be perfect but that would be fun to play with. |
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| nefardec |
Even in modern classical music, a lot of the focus has turned away from established modes and chord progressions and the focus is a lot more on experimenting with the instruments and the keys. After world war two you will see serial composition (dodecaphonic) and atonal composition that fought the established musical modes.
from wikipedia
| quote: | | The basis of twelve-tone technique is the tone row, an ordered arrangement of the twelve notes of the chromatic scale (the twelve equal tempered pitch classes). The tone row chosen as the basis of the piece is called the prime series (P). Untransposed, it is notated as P0. Given the twelve pitch classes of the chromatic scale, there are 12! (12 factorial, i.e. 479,001,600) unique tone rows. |
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| armanivespucci |
| Well, I'm usually in aeolian for trance, but sometimes natural minor, and sometimes something wacky. It's contingent on the genre, IMO. You want to stick to blues, pentatonic, bebop, funk etc. for deep house ... |
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| nhibberd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Im not sure if your saying electronic music has live performance flexibility or not but if you want it to it does. Maybe not trance but with things like techno and breaks and towards those genres you can do some wicked mashing, cutting, stretching, flipping, looping and whatever you want live. Just watch the Exile video on the NI website.
I believe electronic is the most flexible of all music because.
1. It encases so many genres.
2. There are no limits what you can do, no limits at all. With synths and all kinds of effects there is not a sound you cannot creat.
3. You can do it live if you want, they even have midi guitars dont they. They might not be perfect but that would be fun to play with. |
Don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of tricks behind the decks. And i'm not saying it's no match. But you have to respect people like Sting, Dire Straits, Erik Clapton who often are so ingenious with what they do on the stage it makes my heart skip a beat. And many others of course. Also not to mention what Bob Geldoff and Bono do for the world. I think all musical styles can learn a lot from that. I'm still sticking to elektronic personaly though. |
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| ralpheeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Im not sure if your saying electronic music has live performance flexibility or not but if you want it to it does. Maybe not trance but with things like techno and breaks and towards those genres you can do some wicked mashing, cutting, stretching, flipping, looping and whatever you want live. Just watch the Exile video on the NI website.
I believe electronic is the most flexible of all music because.
1. It encases so many genres.
2. There are no limits what you can do, no limits at all. With synths and all kinds of effects there is not a sound you cannot creat.
3. You can do it live if you want, they even have midi guitars dont they. They might not be perfect but that would be fun to play with. |
THAT VIDEO ROCKS, I highly recomend checking it out. |
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