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My Challenge ... You Liberals vs Rush Limbaugh - Have What It Takes? (pg. 5)
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
If by some stroke of luck I were able to actually get on his show...I would probably question his "conservative" principles for his habitual drug use. Then I would question his "principles" altogether for preaching one thing, and leading a lifestyle completely contradictory to what he preaches ... |
Soooo, why you telling us what you will say to him? Tell Rush yourself. :tongue2
(BTW: I thought I heard just the other day that he'd been exonorated of any wrong doing with his perscription use of Oxycontin..am I wrong?)
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
I'm just wondering, how exactly would the person calling be certain that you'll keep your promise and hand out 100$? I certainly wouldn't have a problem calling Rush regardless of who wins because I really wouldn't mind sacrificing my "reputation" on an internet board for real 100$. |
I think Pay Pal has a Buyer Protection Policy that would cover you.
So much for that theory. ;) |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
Soooo, why you telling us what you will say to him? Tell Rush yourself. :tongue2
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It's all in the history but in case you missed it I said, "if I cared enough to phone Limbaugh's show". The context being I was challenged to phone his show as if I gave two s about Rush or his opinion ... the point is I don't. It's like me telling you to phone some bag dj on air america, and unless you have a truly vacant life you would probably ignore me. Sorry, I have about a million better things to do, like first and foremost do some work.
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(BTW: I thought I heard just the other day that he'd been exonorated of any wrong doing with his perscription use of Oxycontin..am I wrong?)
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Haha no you see Rush settled:
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On April 28, 2006, Limbaugh turned himself in to the Palm Beach County, Florida Sheriff's Office as part of a prearranged settlement to the case. He filed a "not guilty" plea with the Court and posted a $3,000 bond to a single criminal charge of doctor shopping to obtain about 40 prescription pills.[27] Although he was never placed in custody, the sherriff's office later told the media that Limbaugh was technically "under arrest" during the actual booking. The first wave of news reporting about the incident indicated that Limbaugh had been "arrested." Believing that this term would inappropriately invoke an image of the talk show host being handcuffed and hauled away in leg irons, Limbaugh and his attorney contacted various media outlets to inform them of the settlement.
Black issued a statement indicating that Limbaugh had settled the charge with the state [28] and that the prosecutor agreed to dismiss the criminal charge if Limbaugh pays $30,000 to defray the cost of the investigation and completes an 18-month therapy regimen with his physician. Black stated:
"...[T]he State Attorney's Office and Mr. Limbaugh have reached an agreement whereby a single count charge of doctor shopping filed today by the State Attorney will be dismissed in 18 months. As a primary condition of the dismissal, Mr. Limbaugh must continue to seek treatment from the doctor he has seen for the past two and one half years. This is the same doctor under whose care Mr. Limbaugh has remained free of his addiction without relapse. Mr. Limbaugh and I have maintained from the start that there was no doctor shopping, and we continue to hold this position. Accordingly, we filed today with the Court a plea of 'Not Guilty' to the charge filed by the State." [29]
Limbaugh asserts that the state's settlement agreement resulted from a lack of evidence supporting the charge of "doctor shopping." Under the terms of the agreement, Limbaugh will continue to undergo random drug testing, which he acknowledges having undergone since 2003, and may not own a firearm.[30]
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In case the irony was missed by you, that's exactly what he described in his preaching :rolleyes:
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What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.
...We are becoming too tolerant as a society, folks, especially of crime, in too many parts of the country.... This country certainly appears to be tolerant, forgive and forget. I mean, you know as well as I do, you go out and commit the worst murder in the world and you just say you're sorry, people go, "Oh, OK. A little contrition."... People say, "I feel better. He said he's sorry for it." We're becoming too tolerant, folks.
RUSH LIMBAUGH
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And in case it was unclear, the agreement to see his doctor for rehabilitation is factually supportive of the fact that he has a drug addiction problem. |
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| donnybrasco |
^^^It's pretty clear from the agreement that he's not guilty of anything under the law (once he finishes the treatment period).
So using his own words against him holds no water here. He's not guilty. This agreement isn't an admission of guilt. In fact, like I said; It exonorates him.
Thanks again for proving me right tonight two times in a row on two different topics in two different threads, OCC, lol. :D |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
^^^It's pretty clear from the agreement that he's not guilty of anything under the law (once he finishes the treatment period).
So using his own words against him holds no water here. He's not guilty. This agreement isn't an admission of guilt. In fact, like I said; It exonorates him.
Thanks again for proving me right tonight two times in a row on two different topics in two different threads, OCC, lol. :D |
Thanks again for evading both arguments twice in a row. Dude ... he's a felony drug user ... he's a goddamn addict:
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Limbaugh admits addiction to pain medication
Saturday, October 11, 2003 Posted: 0252 GMT (10:52 AM HKT)
Source: National Household Survey on Drug Abuse
(CNN) -- Rush Limbaugh announced on his radio program Friday that he is addicted to pain medication and that he is checking himself into a treatment center immediately.
"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life," the conservative commentator said in a statement on his nationally syndicated radio show.
"I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication."
Law enforcement sources said last week that Limbaugh's name had come up during an investigation into a black market drug ring in Palm Beach County, Florida. The sources said that authorities were looking into the illegal sale of the prescription drugs OxyContin and hydrocodone.
Limbaugh, who has a residence in Palm Beach County, was named by sources as a possible buyer. He was not the focus of the investigation, according to the sources.
The radio talk show host said he first became addicted to painkillers "some years ago," following spinal surgery. However, he added, "the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain."
He had tried to break his dependence in the past and has checked himself into medical facilities twice before, he said.
Limbaugh said that he is "not making any excuses" and that he is "no role model."
"I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models," he said.
He would not provide details of his current problem, citing the ongoing investigation.
"At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete."
Sources said the investigation began nine months ago when Wilma Cline, a former housekeeper at Limbaugh's oceanfront Palm Beach mansion, approached authorities.
"I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them," he said.
Limbaugh has not been charged with any crime.
Earlier this month, Limbaugh resigned from his position as football commentator on ESPN after making remarks that critics considered racist.
Limbaugh said he left the show "Sunday NFL Countdown" to protect the network from the uproar caused by his statement that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.
He did not apologize for the comments and does not consider them to be racist remarks, merely an observation of the media's reaction to McNabb's success.
The revelation about Limbaugh's possible addiction to OxyContin appeared the same week he resigned from ESPN. In the statement read by Limbaugh Friday, he did not name the pain medication he said he's addicted to.
Dr. Drew Pinsky, an addiction specialist in Pasadena, California, told CNN that if Limbaugh is addicted to OxyContin, "We're really talking about opiate addiction. The withdrawal is miserable and painful and it takes a long time to recover."
The disease is insidious, Pinksy said.
"It's a progressive disease, and when it progresses, the house of cards falls." Still, he said, "I've seen miracle recoveries."
Limbaugh is one of the most recognized talk show hosts in the nation and also one of the most controversial. In 2001, he signed a nine-year contract with Premiere Radio Networks, which syndicates his show to nearly 600 stations, for a total salary package reported to exceed $200 million.
It is estimated that nearly 20 million people listen to Limbaugh's show daily.
Also in 2001, Limbaugh learned he had a hearing problem. He was diagnosed in May and told his listeners in October that he was almost entirely deaf as a result of an autoimmune inner-ear disease. He said he had lost 100 percent hearing in his left ear and 80 percent in his right ear.
He successfully had a cochlear implant placed in his left ear to restore his hearing. He announced in January 2002 that he could hear his own radio show "for the first time in nearly four months via a medical marvel."
Until then, he relied solely on a TelePrompTer and his staff's assistance to understand his callers.
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Are you saying conservative ideaology only matters when it can legally skirt the law?? What the kind of conservative are you??? Why don't you tell me the principles that are at stake and how rush is adhering to these principles?? Please answer ANY of my questions. In all of your responses you've answered nothing, been so goddamned vague, and you've explained nothing to us at all. It's rediculous. Oh yea ... "lol" as you so eloquentely put it :rolleyes: |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Are you saying conservative ideaology only matters when it can legally skirt the law?? What the kind of conservative are you??? Why don't you tell me the principles that are at stake and how rush is adhering to these principles?? Please answer ANY of my questions. In all of your responses you've answered nothing, been so goddamned vague, and you've explained nothing to us at all. It's rediculous. Oh yea ... "lol" as you so eloquentely put it :rolleyes: |
It seems like political principles always yield to self interst for a lot of people on both liberal and conservatives agendas. |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Here are some good topics u guys love:
1. Wiretaps
2. WMD
3. Oil
4. Iran
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Well, I sure do have strong opinions on moral and political matters that could be phrased so that they would include one or more of these four words, but how on Earth would I know what kind of debate I would enter if I came on the show and blurted "oil!"? The limited supply, and why Bush should be lynched for not waking up to the realities until now? The evidence for and against the hypothesis that Bush went to war over oil? If so, whether it was a good idea? If you want someone to argue with Rush, you need to establish cearly which of Rush's views that you want attacked. This is way to vague a challenge.
If you drummed up a clear cut challenge, involving a proposition that I could actually support (i.e. gays should be allowed to marry/remove all benefits for married couples, the ratification of the kyoto protocol), maybe I would have taken your offer. However, I do fear that the language barrier would be my downfall - sometimes I need time to formulate correct sentences/pronounce things correctly. Unless I'm drunk, that is. |
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| WM2 |
This thread is almost as bad as the Pres. doing his little for us/against us act with policy. I realize why you guys want someone to debat Rush instead of yourselves. You can't even think for long enough to realize that your logic of, "do this or you're just another liberal puss," is totally flawed.
For example, I'd get on and debate Rush, but I have something called a job. This job requires me to do work, so I can get paid and provide for my family. Therefore, I can't sit next to the phone for 4 hours on the busiest day of my work week waiting in anticipation of maybe getting a chance to talk to Rush when chances are his engineer would instead open the mic to people that would rather spend ten minutes kissing his ass than tearing him a new ass. Find me a political talk radio show that isn't structured in a way to make the host sound like a badass, and I'll show you a radio broadcaster that wants to fail.
Besides, if I really wanted to waste a couple hours of my day debating about politics with people like Rush, I could do it on here without having to sit on hold for 4 hours and wait to see if I'm the lucky caller. Oh wait a tick, I already do that! |
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| Renegade |
| That's early Saturday morning my time, which means that the chances of me being either incredibly drunk or sleeping when his show airs are going to be pretty close to 100%. Tell you what though, Tiesto14, if you want to post of transcript of Rush's that you believe is beyond the powers of us forum liberals to debunk, please post it here and I'd be more than happy to post my arguments against it - perhaps we can even email it to him and see if he actually replies. If he really is the bastion of rational discourse that you suppose him to be, however, then his arguments should stand up to textual scrutiny as well as they stand up to verbal scrutiny though, right? |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
I think Pay Pal has a Buyer Protection Policy that would cover you.
So much for that theory. ;) |
Hm, and how exactly does that work? I've never used pay pal before.
Btw, I don't know what Rush's opinions on Iran are, but I suppose he wants the US forces to go in there, with what I pretty much agree should be done. As for the other issues, like WMD or Kyoto protocol or something similar, I really have no problem calling as long as I'll be sure I'll get something for it. |
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Thanks again for evading both arguments twice in a row. Dude ... he's a felony drug user ... he's a goddamn addict: |
"Limbaugh has not been charged with any crime."
He's an addict, but he's certainly not a felon. You're confusing the two.
So he's not living up to his ideology? Wow, the guy has surgeries that leave him in pain, so he gets addicted to the pain killers. Like we've NEVER seen this happen in America before. :rolleyes: It's not like he was taking the stuff for thrills.
OCC: I wish you'd stop masquerading as a "Conservative", hop on the Democrat's Jack-Ass and embrace your left-leaning views. I don't know why you kid yourself.
And I love the excuses that keep popping up in this thread as to why people won't call. "Well, I'd call, but............" LOL. TFF!!
| quote: | | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hm, and how exactly does that work? I've never used pay pal before. |
I've never had to use the Pay Pal Buyer Protection either, and I'm sure it would probably be one of the more interesting claims that they ever had should there ever be a problem, but basically, it would all come down to proof;
Tiesto would pay up front to anyone who agreed to do the show and to the day the call is to be placed. Then if you didn't, I believe he could dispute it as the "Buyer" of your service (service being your call to Rush). As the "Seller" of your service, it would be on you to record the program with proof that you had called. I'd say post here the day before the call in, tell us the topic you're going to speak on, the name you're going to use (doesn't have to be your real name), then DO NOT edit that post! This will be proof later for Tiesto and everyone else that you did in fact call in as you said you would, and you thus won't be able to claim someone else's call as your own. ;)
This could all be written down on paper and signed by the "Seller" as further proof for Pay Pal, should there ever be a dispute. I'd also suggest that Tiesto be a good sport and allow you a window of several days or even a week to make the call, seeing as how I'm sure it can be difficult to get on the show sometimes.
If, at the end of the week, the Seller could not get on the show, it's a simple matter of charging the money back to Tiesto's Pay Pal account . :D |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| Hmm..and do I need a credit card for that or can they send money to a home address? |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Hmm..and do I need a credit card for that or can they send money to a home address? |
it's a wire transfer to your account....you would need at least a debit card. |
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