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9/11 Eyewitness (pg. 5)
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solgrabber
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Are you trying yo convince us?. or yourself?


more BS, figures coming from you. the point of the thread is obviously to have people watch the RAW VIDEO FOOTAGE and decide for themselves. keep trucking, your failing.
tiesto14
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Originally posted by solgrabber
more BS, figures coming from you. the point of the thread is obviously to have people watch the RAW VIDEO FOOTAGE and decide for themselves. keep trucking, your failing.



OH boy.....ok lets play a game....

WHY!!!! would Bush kill 3000 of his own people?
Lepanto
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Originally posted by solgrabber
nice try, fires do not turn concrete and steel into dust. explosives do.


...and a fire doesn't start from an aircraft fuel explosion :rolleyes:
tiesto14
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Originally posted by solgrabber
you just answered your own question. ignoring the facts is exactly the problem. creating bogus information and lies seems to be a recurring theme here.

yes they pulled off a complex plan, it's too bad for them there are holes left everywhere for people who actually look into it can see in plain site where the official story falls very short.



Just for fun...and cus it is rainging and i am bored i will come back at you with some things.

Do you have ANY idea how many people would be involved in such a scheme? Have you thought about it? It would be impossible to keep them all silent. From top officials to the little guy who planted the explosives.

Was the CIA involved? If not, how could the plotters be sure that the CIA wouldn't find out about the conspiracy and blow the whistle? If the CIA was involved, however, what about the fact that CIA chief Tenet was a Clinton appointee. (Yes, Democrats are as imperialist as Republicans; but a secret plot to commit mass murder is likely to be closely held. And if the Democrats are in on the plot, then why are folks like Hillary Clinton calling for an investigation?)

One of Bush's closest cronies is Ted Olson. Olson was the lawyer who argued the Bush-should-be-president case before the Supreme Court and was made Solicitor General as pay-off. Was Olson in on the plot? Does it matter that Olson's wife, Barbara, was on the plane that hit the Pentagon? Was this too just to throw investigators off the scent of the plot? (Yes, we know, Ted may have wanted to leave Barbara for some super-model, and Barbara wouldn't give him a divorce, so maybe the whole plot was just a cover to get Ted out of his marriage.)

If, to go on with the line-up of options, as in some versions of the conspiracy theories, bin Laden is controlled by or faked by the U.S. government, then why didn't the plotters arrange for the "evidence" to implicate Iraq (a place they're much more eager to invade than Afghanistan)? The hijackers could have left all sorts of material behind linking themselves to Saddam Hussein. Mohammed Atta's will could have referred to funds and direction from Baghdad. If, on the other hand, the U.S. plotters didn't control bin Laden, but only knew of his plans through some sort of electronic or human intelligence, then how could they be sure that the plane that struck the Pentagon wouldn't instead hit some target they really cared about?

Bush, of course, knows no history. But if any of the bright people around him were in on the plot, surely they would have told him how hard it is to keep a secret. Kissinger ordered the secret falsification of records of where U.S. planes in Indochina were bombing to hide the fact that Cambodia was being targeted. A radar operator spilled the beans. And what was at stake there was something that many US soldiers might not have cared very much about. But to have several hundred people involved in a plot to commit mass murder, not of people who can be considered sub-human, or "other," etc., but thousands of Americans -- that's a secret that would be extraordinary to expect to be kept secret. To take that risk at all, much less when they already had immense power, is simply not believable.
solgrabber
do i have you guys working overtime?

discredit this then.



oddly enough explosions before the tower has collapsed to that portion of itself.

lets hear your theories on this one, i am willing to bet you are going to shift subject yet again.
Lepanto
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Originally posted by solgrabber
do i have you guys working overtime?

discredit this then.



oddly enough explosions before the tower has collapsed to that portion of itself.

lets hear your theories on this one, i am willing to bet you are going to shift subject yet again.


LMAO what the are you talking about? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!?!?! YOU'RE A NO ONE. YOU'RE NOT EVEN A BASIC PHYSICS MAJOR PROBABLY WHO COULD TELL US IF THERE SHOULD BE SMOKE THERE.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: omfg shut up before you shame yourself even more.

While history has shown that crimes carried out by a group of people (a "conspiracy") are not uncommon, the term "conspiracy theory" is usually used by scholars and in popular culture to identify a type of folklore similar to an urban legend, having certain regular features, especially an explanatory narrative which is constructed with certain naive methodological flaws. The term is also used pejoratively to dismiss allegedly misconceived, paranoid or outlandish rumors.

hahhaha
tiesto14
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Originally posted by solgrabber
do i have you guys working overtime?

discredit this then.


oddly enough explosions before the tower has collapsed to that portion of itself.

lets hear your theories on this one, i am willing to bet you are going to shift subject yet again.



How about you answer my questions....they seem quite simple. If you cant answer my questions then you cant post your nonsense.
Lepanto
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Originally posted by tiesto14
How about you answer my questions....they seem quite simple. If you cant answer my questions then you cant post your nonsense.


he cannot.
Shakka
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Originally posted by solgrabber
do i have you guys working overtime?

discredit this then.



oddly enough explosions before the tower has collapsed to that portion of itself.

lets hear your theories on this one, i am willing to bet you are going to shift subject yet again.



So given that the tower has already commenced falling, the fact that there is tons of empty space, files, paper, garbage, etc on each floor, and the fact that space from above was rapidly being compressed due to each incremental floor falling on top of the one below it, it's not possible that dust, ash, etc,. could possibly be forced through stairwells, windows, office space, etc., and out the windows? When something falls from above, the space underneath it(and everything within that space), must go somewhere. From the picture you posted, it would seem both reasonable and logical, that said matter would be pushed out of the windows immediately beneath the ensuing collapse. Build a model and try it out. Quit posting conspiratorial bull.
tiesto14
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Originally posted by Shakka
So given that the tower has already commenced falling, the fact that there is tons of empty space, files, paper, garbage, etc on each floor, and the fact that space from above was rapidly being compressed due to each incremental floor falling on top of the one below it, it's not possible that dust, ash, etc,. could possibly be forced through stairwells, windows, office space, etc., and out the windows? When something falls from above, the space underneath it(and everything within that space), must go somewhere. From the picture you posted, it would seem both reasonable and logical, that said matter would be pushed out of the windows immediately beneath the ensuing collapse. Build a model and try it out. Quit posting conspiratorial bull.



I wanted to post something like what you just did but i couldnt word it as well as you just did...well done!

solgrabber
is that all you guys have? slinging insults at me and again avoiding the topic i might add.

who are you all? who do you work for? do you feel good when you feed your children with the blood money you receive to write nonsense?

yes I AM CALLING YOU OUT. you have no intentions of posting anything that remains on the subject.

i by no means made the video in question but many professionals where involved in doing so. why not go ask a physhics professor for some basic lessons?

again the video footage is below, for all to decide for themselves.

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care to explain after really watching it what millions of people like myself know or are you simply going to direct your actions at trying to discredit me?

you cant do it can you?
tiesto14
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Originally posted by solgrabber
is that all you guys have? slinging insults at me and again avoiding the topic i might add.

who are you all? who do you work for? do you feel good when you feed your children with the blood money you receive to write nonsense?

yes I AM CALLING YOU OUT. you have no intentions of posting anything that remains on the subject.

i by no means made the video in question but many professionals where involved in doing so. why not go ask a physhics professor for some basic lessons?

again the video footage is below, for all to decide for themselves.

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care to explain after really watching it what millions of people like myself know or are you simply going to direct your actions at trying to discredit me?

you cant do it can you?



Are you legally insane? I responded to the video with asking ahy would Bush do it? and you failed to answer. I ten asked who was involved and how impossible it would be to keep them silent and again you failed to respond.

Therefore i will not entertain your sick sick notions and longer.
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