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NY Times advocating RFID implants (pg. 4)
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| WM2 |
| Dude, that's f'ed up. I just watched that video. What's even more disturbing is the fact that people really are being conditioned to go along with this. I see it everyday working for a bank I guess I just never realized just how prevalent it is. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by WM2
Dude, that's f'ed up. I just watched that video. What's even more disturbing is the fact that people really are being conditioned to go along with this. I see it everyday working for a bank I guess I just never realized just how prevalent it is. |
Agreed :(. |
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| WM2 |
| As far as the tin foil thing goes, one of my friends uses a homemade amplification device for his wireless network that's just a small wall of tin foil. My brother also used to wrap some around the antena on his wireless NIC when his signal strenght was low and it would make a noticeable difference. Now he's realized that being plugged in isn't such a bad thing especially when you're playing CS and the last thing you need to be worried about is your connection. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| That's actually pretty neat. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by WM2
As far as the tin foil thing goes, one of my friends uses a homemade amplification device for his wireless network that's just a small wall of tin foil. My brother also used to wrap some around the antena on his wireless NIC when his signal strenght was low and it would make a noticeable difference. Now he's realized that being plugged in isn't such a bad thing especially when you're playing CS and the last thing you need to be worried about is your connection. |
LOL!
Where the hell is the router??
The tinfoil doesn't make the connection any faster, it just gives you better range (hence the stronger signal)...:haha: |
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| WM2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
LOL!
Where the hell is the router??
The tinfoil doesn't make the connection any faster, it just gives you better range (hence the stronger signal)...:haha: |
His router was in a room on the opposite side of the house and down a floor. My brothers trick obviously didn't make it any faster, but did increase the signal strenght. At one point we were able to pick up the signal of a neighbor that was three houses down from ours. We knew is was theirs because we helped them setup their network and recognized the network name. We're geeky.:D
Anyway, that video wasn't really freaky like OMFG I'm heading for the hills, but it does make some very interesting points about our society and our freedoms. And you know something is amiss when even the Fox News bastards are pushing the idea. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Alright, you guys already know I'm not Christian, so I'm certainly no bible-thumper, but this video is just damn disturbing: |
| quote: | Originally posted by WM2
Dude, that's f'ed up. I just watched that video. What's even more disturbing is the fact that people really are being conditioned to go along with this. I see it everyday working for a bank I guess I just never realized just how prevalent it is. |
This'll make you put that hat on faster (or not); there are already military projects that will "wet wire" a human to a computer network.
You've already been conditioned into it by Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager and the Matrix trilogy of movies for example. The real world applications are bluetooth enabled phones and those silly looking hearing aides that go with them.
The network is in place.
All it needs are humans willing to take it in acceptance. Will the sub-dermal implanted chip be the coup de grāce for the human race?
No one knows or doesn't care to know.
Truth be told, Pavlov was right about the dog and the bell. |
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| OurManFlint |
Looking at this makes me think about how it will eventually lead into something horrific. Let's imagine that no agencies or governement initialy start doing this, but rather buisnesses.
Let's say a revolutionary universal implant can be used to keep track of information so you can access it at various other buisnesses and will eventually make things more efficient. After a while, the governement works some strings and they pass a law stating that they have the right to access the information on the inplant if they have probable cause. Eventualy, they grant themselves the power to be able to access the information without probable cause.
It kind of sounds like what's happening right now with phone taps and various other ways they are allowed to keep taps on people. If any kind of implant that holds inforamtion comes out and people are implanted, they will be watched. If you doubt it, you're just an idiot. Even if it starts out as a buisness venture, it will be used for unethical and horrific purposes, purposes that only belong in science ficiton books. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| this thread is win |
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| shaolin_Z |
Isn't this great?
| quote: | Could X-ray scanners work on the street?
X-ray cameras that would "undress" passers-by in a bid to thwart terrorists concealing weapons, could be coming to a street near you, according to reports. Aside from the obvious privacy issues, would such a plan work?
Leaked documents said to have been drawn up by the Home Office and seen by the Sun newspaper say cameras which can see through clothes could be built into lamp posts to "trap terror suspects".
While Home Secretary John Reid has denied knowledge of the plans, the technology is not dissimilar to that already found in some UK airports. Currently, air security officials pick out individuals to stand in a booth while three pictures are taken of the person in slightly different positions.
Within seconds, an X-ray scanner produces an image of the body, minus the clothes. What shows up is the naked human form and anything that may be concealed on the person, such as coins, a gun or drugs.
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The real question is not whether the technology can see something under the clothing, it's how you respond to it
Bob Ayers
Security expert |
There are other variations on the X-ray technology. Millimetre wave machines give more of a three-dimensional image, while terahertz radiation also penetrates clothing.
A one-month trial at London's Paddington rail station involved a millimetre wave scanner. A portable version - an "electronic wand" - was trialled last year at London's Canary Wharf and Greenford Underground stations.
No decision has been made about wider implementation, according to a Department of Transport spokesman, who says the challenges are being evaluated.
But security expert Bob Ayers, of Chatham House, believes putting an X-ray lens on a lamppost poses all sorts of resource questions.
"Some guy walks past and his picture is beamed back to a control room to say that something is under his jacket. What do you do? Despatch a police car to hunt him down and frisk him?
"The real question is not whether the technology can see something under the clothing. It's how you respond to it when the technology says there's something unusual.
"Do you have police strolling down each street, ready to ask people what they have under their jacket?"
Privacy
The manpower cost would be "astronomical", he says, and CCTV would be required to match a description to the suspicious image.
"If you don't pick them up in minute or two, he's gone. What good does it do for you to know that at 11am this morning a guy walked down Victoria Street with a gun in his jacket?"
Besides, there could be problems distinguishing a money bag from a bomb strapped at the waist. But privacy should not be a concern because there is only a shadowy outline of the body, says Mr Ayers.
Professor Paul Wilkinson, a terrorism expert, is also doubtful. There would be a huge installation and maintenance cost, he says, plus the risk of antagonising ordinary citizens.
"The practicalities of these things working, if sufficient light, is in no doubt. The questions are when is this a useful addition to security and when does it become unduly intrusive and worrying to the public?"
What works for airline security, where passengers expect thorough checks, would not necessarily be tolerated when walking down the street, he adds.
Mr Ayers believes the best use of this technology is in a captured space, like at airport security or in a bus depot.
A spokesman for Qinetiq, one of the first firms to develop millimetre wave machines, says there have been successful uses for them.
"The Immigration Service has about eight or nine deployed around Europe, to see lorries crossing the Channel or at sea crossings into the UK.
"Using this technology alongside complementary technology such as CO2 monitors, they have detected thousands of people stashed away on lorries."
He adds that the US military are trialling millimetre wave machines at military checkpoints to combat the threat of suicide bombers. The use of cables mean they can be operated from any distance.
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Published: 2007/01/29 13:46:17 GMT
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Looking at this makes me think about how it will eventually lead into something horrific. Let's imagine that no agencies or governement initialy start doing this, but rather buisnesses. |
The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Knights Templar) started the banking system. It also started the secret society with it's ties to present-day freemasonry. It's all tied together. No loose ends.
| quote: | | Let's say a revolutionary universal implant can be used to keep track of information so you can access it at various other buisnesses and will eventually make things more efficient. After a while, the governement works some strings and they pass a law stating that they have the right to access the information on the inplant if they have probable cause. Eventualy, they grant themselves the power to be able to access the information without probable cause. |
Been there done that. The film Minority Report shows this when Tom Cruises' character entered a store. 24 also shows that it's okay to trample a persons rights since it is for the "greater good". There are people that actually believe that if you've/they've done nothing wrong then there is nothing to hide.
| quote: | | It kind of sounds like what's happening right now with phone taps and various other ways they are allowed to keep taps on people. If any kind of implant that holds inforamtion comes out and people are implanted, they will be watched. If you doubt it, you're just an idiot. Even if it starts out as a buisness venture, it will be used for unethical and horrific purposes, purposes that only belong in science ficiton books. |
When knowing what medications and foods you take, there's no telling what that information can do to a person. Or what church you go to. Or what books you read. Or if you like the same sex or opposite sex. Everything about you has already been profiled. |
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