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| PaperBag831 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Pay attention to the fact that the muscles will contact and lock the jaw, imagine how much pressure is exerted when that jaw contracts and closes the mouth. If it happens on the tongue, he will bite his tongue off. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I've been taught this in multiple first aid courses.
When the seizure first hits the jaw clamps shut, if the tongue is in the way its gonna go right then. However once you go "oh , he's having a seizure, wtf do i do wtf do i do, oh thats right, jaw, tongue, teeth, put somehting between them, , what, remote control that'll do", the jaw is already well clamped and trying to put somehting between the teeth will only damage the teeth further. Once the jaw closes, she dun't open until the seizure passes, so there is no point trying to put somehting between the teeth. |
Its one of those things that you can only do if you know the situation, otherwise youre panicing and its too late. |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Its one of those things that you can only do if you know the situation, otherwise youre panicing and its too late. |
yes, but the point being once the teeth shut, trying to get somehting in there will do more damage than good. And considering the jaw clamping shut is an early event (like one of the first things that happens), theres not too much you can do about it.
Unless of course you have the reflexes of a ninja. Think about it, its gonna take a few seconds for you to react, grab something and get to your mate, and thats if you have a clear mind and know exactly what to do and exactly what to grab. By this time its probably already too late.
for sure put something in there if they haven't closed, but don't immediately grab something and then try to force it between clenched jaws. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
for sure put something in there if they haven't closed, but don't immediately grab something and then try to force it between clenched jaws. |
Thats what Im saying. |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Thats what Im saying. |
oh. i never realised you said that if the jaws had alredy closed they won't reopen so it ceases to be of concern.
It appeared to me you were under the impression they would spasmodically open and shut and hence bite the tongue off.
obviously not.
move along, nothing to see here................... |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
oh. i never realised you said that if the jaws had alredy closed they won't reopen so it ceases to be of concern.
It appeared to me you were under the impression they would spasmodically open and shut and hence bite the tongue off.
obviously not.
move along, nothing to see here................... |
Nope that tongue will get bitten off right away if it obstructs the mouth as it closes. |
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| take5 |
| i just cant get that picture out of my head when he was shaking. god i which i had some weed |
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| NebulousQ |
Just in case your friend has another seizure DO NOT try to put something in his mouth. I am also certified in First Aid and even if you dont believe me here are some sources with very good information on seizures:
| quote: | From Wiki
The person should never be restrained, nor should there be any attempt to put something in the mouth. |
Wiki Article
| quote: | From Kaiser Permanente
Do not force anything, including your fingers, into the person's mouth. Putting something in the person's mouth may cause injuries to him or her, such as chipped teeth or a fractured jaw. You could also get bitten. |
Kaiser
| quote: | From Epilepsy Foundation
Turn him or her gently onto one side. This will help keep the airway clear. Do not try to force the mouth open with any hard implement or with fingers. It is not true that a person having a seizure can swallow his tongue. Efforts to hold the tongue down can injure teeth or jaw. |
Epilepsy Foundation
| quote: | From a service of the U.S. National Library of MEdicine
DO NOT place anything between the person's teeth during a seizure (including your fingers). |
MedlinePlus
If you are afraid it might happen again I would recommend reading the first two articles at least. |
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| Vlad |
Common word...
force, force, force, force, force... if you can get it in there without force, than you should. |
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| NebulousQ |
Learn to read:
"nor should there be any attempt to put something in the mouth"
"DO NOT place anything between the person's teeth" |
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| Vlad |
| Good for them... but if someone does have a seizure around me, that would be one of my first impulses if I get a chance to do it. |
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| KilldaDJ |
one of my classmates had a seizure in my english class in college, that was weird as ive never witnessed a seizure
he was like totally fine one minute then he was like jabbering and started shaking and , this dude next to him was startled and moved everything away from the guy, he was like proper freaking out, drooling and being like he was just electrocuted or something
trippy shiet |
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