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more BT effects questions :P
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| Arudius |
Hey...I'm back with some more BT questions.
First of all, is there any good freeware comb-filter VSTs for Mac? even any good AUs?
Second, here's an effect BT uses a lot. It may be similar to the one I've linked to in the past, but I'd like to know how to do it because I want to do it on things like snare roll sweeps. Pitch-shifting them slightly while running them through effects like these:
BT Effect (from Firewater)
Just to clarify, the effect I'm talking about is whatever he's running along the entire submix (minus the vocals perhaps) that builds slowly from dry to wet, and then it "hits". I'm not sure how else to describe it. It always reminds me of standing under an airplane when it takes off, heh.
Anyone? Is this comb-filtering? Is it phasing? Thanks a lot for your help too. :)
-Arudius
ps. If anyone else here is super into BT as well, what are some cool ways to achieve some of his signature effects?
Powerbook G4, Logic Pro 7, Reason 3.0, Recycle 2.1, Ableton Live 5 (just getting into this) |
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| linus |
| Sounds like an aux send to a flanger effect. |
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| Limit |
sounds pretty simple...basically you take a crash and reverse it(you might have to time stretch it a little if yours sample doesn't have a long decay) then at the end of the sample put the normal unrevesed sample so it has a build up and then hit sound(do this part on anotehr empty track). Now cut the hit part off that sample and keep the hit where it is. Now use another copy of the same unreversed crash and place it slightly after the hit..with a slight space for time. Now you have to picth shift the unreversed crash(the last sample you used) so that it sounds like its stopping slowely, not a dead stop. This is like when you press stop on a tuntable..you get a 2 second stop time that gives you a downward pitch sound. Now copy that sample and add it to anohther empty track.
So now you have 3 tracks
1. with the reversed crash
2. with the unrevresed crash
3. with a chop of the hit and a copy of the unreversed crash.
Now time to add FX
on the first track(1) add a phaser
on the second(2) track add Reverb
on the third track eq it slightly so it cuts through from the rest.
I also used a different crash sample for the actual hit part of the crash(the chop in #3), jut to make it stand out more...you can also just pitch shift this part up a few cents too to get the same effect.
Heres my sample
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=75FAA4AF66CA2BCA |
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| thoughtlessjex |
| The reversed cymbal par sounds like it has a phaser that was timed so that the notches pass the cymbal's fundamental in quick succession just before the unreversed crash plays. Run a flanger over some ban white noise, and you will periodically hear that stuttering noise. You need to time your phaser over your cymbal and record that for use in your track. |
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| skot_e |
Hey Limit - nice one.
Question, when you say for #3 'a chop', are you refering to cutting the decay off the crash, and layering that over another pitch shifted crash? |
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| Limit |
| quote: | Originally posted by skot_e
Hey Limit - nice one.
Question, when you say for #3 'a chop', are you refering to cutting the decay off the crash, and layering that over another pitch shifted crash? |
thats exactly what I meant. just use the part of the crash that is the attack and not the decay. But in order to get the exact effect you need to leave some space between the sliced sample and the full sample...just use your ears. |
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| Lindo |
| damn you BT and your ingenius effects. He takes something you just wouldn't think of and make it into something outrageously awesome sounding. Good little thread. Oh and Limit...that sounded pretty damn good. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
Yeah, he is the master.
I love listening to his tracks at night in my headphones, each time you hear new stuff. It's insane. The guy puts the best Piano I've ever heard in tracks too.
Only weak area I find for him, is his 4x4 beat. I aint massivly keen on them, but they were typical for their time. Everything else is breath taking. |
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| Arudius |
Lunar, I agree entirely with what you say. I've been a pianist since I was 4, and it was my principle instrument at Berklee (just graduated, hooray!!)...and like BT, I was Suzuki trained. When I listen to tracks like Flaming June, I can always find myself disgusted with teh 4 on the floor at times...but the piano tracks are sick. They're absolutely perfect for the genre. He does it right.
Sunblind is another favorite of mine to listen to as both a sound designer and simply as a BT fan. The opening 1:30 of that song is just nuts. If you ever get a high bitrate mp3 of that file, and good speakers, sit between them and just listen to the soundscape he creates...the synths wash all around you. I love it. I did a tune where I tried to emulate his little surround effects. I think I kind of achieved it, but things like in Force of Gravity where he spreads it out, pans it all around and then makes it sound like it's moving around behind you, then back around to the middle and front center...stuff like that is just sick. He makes up for his 4 on the floor with that for sure. :P
Anyway, that's my BT rant for now. I think I read on wikipedia that he claims to have like a 170 IQ? |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
yeah apparently so, hes like nearly perfect in everyway, what a bastard.
gotta love him though.
even his tracks are always produced and sound sick. |
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