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A serious question about Jonathan Peters
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| DJ Eddie Lee |
Believe it or not I have a strange respect for JP in that he's been around for so many years and yet he still manages to throw "profitable" parties in NY. I'm not a fan of the style of music he plays at all, but there are obviously plenty of people who do so I guess he's laughing all the way to the bank.
Here's my ONLY gripe about JP, and all of this is true from first hand observation. I you not, he brings with him 2 Macs (1 laptop, and one desktop) using only god-knows-what type of programs. He also brings with him some vinyl,CDs, effects boxes, some kind of looping device, and even a SOUND TECH GUY who hooks this stuff up in the most inconvenient and inefficient way possible. Both times he played at Avalon, he didn't want me to open and didn't want ANYONE to open for that matter, which was fine by me b/c I knew he was bringing in all his fancy equipment and I'm sure he didn't want anyone to touch it. Totally understandable......But here's my main question......Why bring all that stuff and even a PERSON to hook it up for you if you aren't gonna put on some kind of "live show" or do something totally unique? It just seemed like the same tribal track playing for 4 hours straight with the occassional vocal loop and ill-timed filter effects. From an experienced DJ's point of view, it just seems totally unnecessary. Any DJ can achieve the same result with a few tribal CDs, some accapellas, and a cheap pioneer mixer. Now that I really think about it, it's quite confusing. To put this in perspective, I helped set up Junkie XL's live show at Avalon back in 2004 and all he brought with him was a mac and a synth.
Believe me, I'm not trying to be a cynic, a JP hater, or a smart-ass. But can someone please enlighten me as to why a DJ that plays the style of music that he does, need all this equipment? And you know how your typical non-electronic music fan who calls it techno would say that "every song sounds the same"? Well in JP's case I can honestly say, every song sounded the same to me! I honestly could not distinguish one song from the other and was even more perplexed at how it took $15k worth of equipment to acheive this.
And for the last time, I'm not a JP hater and I'll even reiterate the fact that I respect the guy.....But can someone explain any of this to me? What is he doing back there that he needs all of this equipment? Does anyone see or more importantly, hear him doing anything special to the music?
Oh, and if anyone wants to copy this to another JP thread where someone might have an answer for me, feel free. |
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| Keepingitreal |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee
And you know how your typical non-electronic music fan who calls it techno would say that "every song sounds the same"? Well in JP's case I can honestly say, every song sounded the same to me! I honestly could not distinguish one song from the other and was even more perplexed at how it took $15k worth of equipment to acheive this |
Lame... Its cause the man knows how to mix!
Jp 4 life |
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| DJ A.K |
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Lame... Its cause the man knows how to mix!
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Now, I've never been to a JP show, and I've heard that he uses a lot of uneccessary equipment as a crutch. However, a member of this forum that used to be a big JP fan (name withheld b/c he's not online and I would like to ask for permission b4 citing his name as he no longer likes JP) said that he used[i/] to be a skilled DJ in terms of mixing [i]and track selection. I know that I love a lot of his 2003 and earlier mixes (especially the 2003 S&M Soundfactory Revelations Mix --- HOT set)
Keep in mind that I usually defend JP on the TA boards as I don't appreciate the dudes that incessantly bash JP and Tiesto, but as I said in a different thread, if the sets that I've been DLing are any indicator, JP has been going downhill recently. Now, that's dissapointing, as it means that he won't ever get fans outside of the NYC metropolitan area... let's hope new NYC DJs get the fame for our city --- like DJ Eco (your is amazing, man, I'm just dissapointed that I missed your set, and it's an honor to consider myself your freind).
Anyway, here's what I posted in a different thread (the JP @ Pacha S&M thread):
Sadly, I think JP is on his way down from the level of DJ skill that he had at one point in time. Whereas some may disagree with me, there was a point (pre 2003) where JP came out with some of the most disgusting and amazing mixes in terms of 'modern' house music that was available. I've never been to one of his shows (keep missing them for one reason or another) but I hear that his decline is quickened by a terrible crowd. As such, I really hope that he's like Tiesto, and will rebound from that decline of his and come back to his place as a very good and respectable house DJ. Otherwise, I'm dissapointed in what he has to offer as a DJ. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee
Believe it or not I have a strange respect for JP in that he's been around for so many years and yet he still manages to throw "profitable" parties in NY. I'm not a fan of the style of music he plays at all, but there are obviously plenty of people who do so I guess he's laughing all the way to the bank.
Here's my ONLY gripe about JP, and all of this is true from first hand observation. I you not, he brings with him 2 Macs (1 laptop, and one desktop) using only god-knows-what type of programs. He also brings with him some vinyl,CDs, effects boxes, some kind of looping device, and even a SOUND TECH GUY who hooks this stuff up in the most inconvenient and inefficient way possible. Both times he played at Avalon, he didn't want me to open and didn't want ANYONE to open for that matter, which was fine by me b/c I knew he was bringing in all his fancy equipment and I'm sure he didn't want anyone to touch it. Totally understandable......But here's my main question......Why bring all that stuff and even a PERSON to hook it up for you if you aren't gonna put on some kind of "live show" or do something totally unique? It just seemed like the same tribal track playing for 4 hours straight with the occassional vocal loop and ill-timed filter effects. From an experienced DJ's point of view, it just seems totally unnecessary. Any DJ can achieve the same result with a few tribal CDs, some accapellas, and a cheap pioneer mixer. Now that I really think about it, it's quite confusing. To put this in perspective, I helped set up Junkie XL's live show at Avalon back in 2004 and all he brought with him was a mac and a synth.
Believe me, I'm not trying to be a cynic, a JP hater, or a smart-ass. But can someone please enlighten me as to why a DJ that plays the style of music that he does, need all this equipment? And you know how your typical non-electronic music fan who calls it techno would say that "every song sounds the same"? Well in JP's case I can honestly say, every song sounded the same to me! I honestly could not distinguish one song from the other and was even more perplexed at how it took $15k worth of equipment to acheive this.
And for the last time, I'm not a JP hater and I'll even reiterate the fact that I respect the guy.....But can someone explain any of this to me? What is he doing back there that he needs all of this equipment? Does anyone see or more importantly, hear him doing anything special to the music?
Oh, and if anyone wants to copy this to another JP thread where someone might have an answer for me, feel free. |
Junkie XL's live show is a joke too... I kind of think of him as a britany spears of a electronic music.... Not because his music is bad, because some of its great. But all he really does is dance arround the stage while playing dat files and mixing levels....
I have no clue what jp is doing nor have i ssen him live ever. But from the pictures and what ive heard he brings way to much gear for it to sound the way it does... |
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| DJ Eco |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee
Believe it or not I have a strange respect for JP in that he's been around for so many years and yet he still manages to throw "profitable" parties in NY. I'm not a fan of the style of music he plays at all, but there are obviously plenty of people who do so I guess he's laughing all the way to the bank.
Here's my ONLY gripe about JP, and all of this is true from first hand observation. I you not, he brings with him 2 Macs (1 laptop, and one desktop) using only god-knows-what type of programs. He also brings with him some vinyl,CDs, effects boxes, some kind of looping device, and even a SOUND TECH GUY who hooks this stuff up in the most inconvenient and inefficient way possible. Both times he played at Avalon, he didn't want me to open and didn't want ANYONE to open for that matter, which was fine by me b/c I knew he was bringing in all his fancy equipment and I'm sure he didn't want anyone to touch it. Totally understandable......But here's my main question......Why bring all that stuff and even a PERSON to hook it up for you if you aren't gonna put on some kind of "live show" or do something totally unique? It just seemed like the same tribal track playing for 4 hours straight with the occassional vocal loop and ill-timed filter effects. From an experienced DJ's point of view, it just seems totally unnecessary. Any DJ can achieve the same result with a few tribal CDs, some accapellas, and a cheap pioneer mixer. Now that I really think about it, it's quite confusing. To put this in perspective, I helped set up Junkie XL's live show at Avalon back in 2004 and all he brought with him was a mac and a synth.
Believe me, I'm not trying to be a cynic, a JP hater, or a smart-ass. But can someone please enlighten me as to why a DJ that plays the style of music that he does, need all this equipment? And you know how your typical non-electronic music fan who calls it techno would say that "every song sounds the same"? Well in JP's case I can honestly say, every song sounded the same to me! I honestly could not distinguish one song from the other and was even more perplexed at how it took $15k worth of equipment to acheive this.
And for the last time, I'm not a JP hater and I'll even reiterate the fact that I respect the guy.....But can someone explain any of this to me? What is he doing back there that he needs all of this equipment? Does anyone see or more importantly, hear him doing anything special to the music?
Oh, and if anyone wants to copy this to another JP thread where someone might have an answer for me, feel free. |
ive been asking the same question... a JP fan will ignorantly say "its because he constructs songs and doesnt just play them (which is BS considering the song he plays that i recognize is the same exact song as the version that i have, give or take some loops here or there). he does remixes on the fly (which is not the case, he layers acapellas over other tracks, and thus, it sounds like a remix on the fly of a song they know and love but over another song, omg!!!!)".... thus, ive been saying for a while, there is no need for all that equipment, any DJ can achieve similar results from an FX box, two good CDJs, and like you said, a Pioneer mixer... or maybe one instance of Abelton Live running (not 2 or 3, like pics of JP show) |
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| dj tek |
| it aint about what you got, its what you do with it.. |
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| DeRangedMind |
| From what I hear he brings all that equipment to show off because lets face it doesn't take much effert or work for what hes spins unless your trying to be creative and sick like a la Carl Cox |
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