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| Theresa |
I am doing a study on the philosophy of feminism, and I am wondering, in general, what do people think when they think of a feminist? Do you think it is a good thing; a bad thing? Do you think it plays a role in our society today? Do you think popular feminism is broken? Anything you have to say on the subject is welcome, and I would like to hear from both men and women.
I will give my own opinions later. |
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| Sunflower |
| I think of it as a bad thing |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunflower
I think of it as a bad thing |
Can you elaborate please.
Why is it bad? |
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| Aquarian |
| I think it's a good idea that some have pushed too far and too fast. Society's been structured to be patriarchal thousands of years ago. Things can't be expected to change in 50 years. While some progress has been made, some of the movement has lost what might've been it's initial goal and changed from gender equality to female superiority, sexism and double standards. |
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| igottaknow |
| i think of you when i hear the word. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
i think of you when i hear the word. |
Why is that? I am certainly not a feminazi... :conf: |
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| nchs09 |
feminist movment is bad, as it tries to say that women are equal as man.
when they clearly arent. now now.. im not saying women cant do jobs man can do....
well i kinda am because it is in nature that we are different. men clearly are stronger phisically and are good @ math problems i think... because that part of our brain is more developed, and women are better @ abstract thinking.
i cant rly remember other differences but i learn this in college. there were a ton putting down the ideal of "women are = to man " because clearly they arent
ps. sounds like im putting women down but women have as much positive qualities as men. those are the only examples i can think of. |
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| MarkT |
feminism is like any other philosophy or form of activism.
there are those who honestly seek to promote their cause...then there are those who seek to promote it at the expense of others or through antagonism and negativity (the radicals...people like Andrea Dworkin, Catherine McKinnon, etc).
Popular feminism is broken in the same way that gay activism is broken...these groups, women and gays, remain marginalized to a significant extent, yet have attained enough "equality" and protection under the law (here, anyway) to satisfy/placate most of them. IMHO, this is especially true in urban centres, where their voice is probably loudest due to shear numbers...leaving those is smaller, more rural areas without the same "actual" protections and equality to fend for themselves, given the lack of forward thinking that often exists in these areas.
that's my opinion, anyway ;) |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
feminism is like any other philosophy or form of activism.
there are those who honestly seek to promote their cause...then there are those who seek to promote it at the expense of others or through antagonism and negativity (the radicals...people like Andrea Dworkin, Catherine McKinnon, etc).
Popular feminism is broken in the same way that gay activism is broken...these groups, women and gays, remain marginalized to a significant extent, yet have attained enough "equality" and protection under the law (here, anyway) to satisfy/placate most of them. IMHO, this is especially true in urban centres, where their voice is probably loudest due to shear numbers...leaving those is smaller, more rural areas without the same "actual" protections and equality to fend for themselves, given the lack of forward thinking that often exists in these areas.
that's my opinion, anyway ;) |
i dont see the similarities between the gay activist groups and the topic in hand. |
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| Aquarian |
| quote: | | Originally posted by nchs09 well i kinda am because it is in nature that we are different. men clearly are stronger phisically and are good @ math problems i think... because that part of our brain is more developed, and women are better @ abstract thinking. |
"abstract thinking" would probably be under the holistic hemisphere, so I'm thinking you meant "specific thinking". In any case, this stuff is based on how hormones affect brain growth. I'd like to see some research data that shows the practical implications of this - if any exists. Gender roles are learned from society, they're not hard-wired into the brain from birth. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Why is that? I am certainly not a feminazi... :conf: |
your short hair and you want to get your tubes tied |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquarian
"abstract thinking" would probably be under the holistic hemisphere, so I'm thinking you meant "specific thinking". In any case, this stuff is based on how hormones affect brain growth. I'd like to see some research data that shows the practical implications of this - if any exists. Gender roles are learned from society, they're not hard-wired into the brain from birth. |
im not saying gender roles.. im saying things u are naturally good @. well i guess there is a fine line but maybe what u are enclined on learning?..ya i guess that is also walking the thin line... there is some reasearch.. i think i sold my books cause i passed the class. |
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