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OMG.... Marines consciously slaughtered dozens of civilians?? (pg. 2)
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Wow. What a surprise. I didnt know Americans didnt do any atrocities in Iraq whatsoever. Their soldiers are just plain innocent. Those stupid insurgents and media are lying, the prison torture is faked, the illegal use of banned chemical weapons is abosolute nonsense, and all the other crap is a simple way for insurgence to create instability in Iraq. 'Cause Americans are bringing an incredible stability to Iraq, which hasnt seen such great strides to democracy, with lower crime, less corruption and murders, and less of anything ... thats bad! Schools are hospitals are getting rebuilt, people of different religions are closer than they were ever before.
Man, I wish I just move to Iraq as soon as possible. Evil Saddam Hussein is now gone, and everything in Iraq right now IS BETTER than it was during the horrible horrible years of oppression of Saddamism. Oh boy, there goes another page in history. |
Is that sarcasm? :conf: |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Is that sarcasm? :conf: |
LOL, of course. Isn't it obvious? Everything in that message is quite opposite, actually :stongue: |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
LOL, of course. Isn't it obvious? Everything in that message is quite opposite, actually :stongue: |
WEll, it was really funny, I mean you are quite a funny russian man. How much Vodka do you drink, you should slow down because you are killing me over here with your witty remarks. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
LOL, of course. Isn't it obvious? Everything in that message is quite opposite, actually :stongue: |
i was being sarcastic ;) :p |
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| Aquadyne |
| quote: | Then, of course, you get the cases where a student slacks in high school and gets a 1.67 GPA, and yet is very intelligent (Me being one). And if someone gets a perfect score on the SAT's, they are either A) Very smart B) Autistic C) Cheaters.
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No, I'm pretty sure that you're also a moron.
Even if we had enough 4.0 GPA students to fill the Army ranks - I would rather have them studying in college and earning degrees to make this country a better place than being cannon fodder abroad so wars like these wouldn't happen in the first place. |
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| shaolin_Z |
I love how many Westerners claim some sort of moral high ground relative to the rest of the world. And this is highly civilized and principled right?
note:
1. This is just a general comment, not directed at anyone on this thread/forum
2.I'm trying to refrain from using the term "the West" in order to avoid it being interpreted as a generalization applying to all of us,
so no need to get your panties in a bunch. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I love how many Westerners claim some sort of moral high ground relative to the rest of the world. And this is highly civilized and principled right?
note:
1. This is just a general comment, not directed at anyone on this thread/forum
2.I'm trying to refrain from using the term "the West" in order to avoid it being interpreted as a generalization applying to all of us,
so no need to get your panties in a bunch. |
I like thongs actually.. ha ha ha ha
Seriously though, this is a suck ass situation, but I will wait for the official report but hearing all the news and reports coming out and then seeing the scars on those little kids is just terrible... |
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| Dusco |
| This is why we cant half a** win a war to many rules to go by.. back in the day we went in a killed everything that moved... thats how u win a war u scare the out of everyone... now every time a soldier fires his weapon there is some kinda gay investigation.... get the media out and let our boys go and let them do what they do best... KILL :whip: |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dusco
This is why we cant half a** win a war to many rules to go by.. back in the day we went in a killed everything that moved... thats how u win a war u scare the out of everyone... now every time a soldier fires his weapon there is some kinda gay investigation.... get the media out and let our boys go and let them do what they do best... KILL :whip: |
In what war was that?? Civil, Revolution?? What war pray tell has American soldiers just went in and killed everything that moved?? And don't bring that that happened in Nam either, cause that was a isolated event, just like this one.
Also how the hell is investigating the killing of inocent kids and women "gay"??
please educate me? |
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| LazFX |
Oh my bad I forgot about all the killings the American soldier did against the native american's.
Manifest Destiny i beleive it was called :rolleyes: |
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| MehGoat |
In defense of the marines: They'd had a comrade killed i think the day before. That kind of makes you pissed. That's not an excuse for killing innocents, but s**t happens when people get mad, especially people with guns. I say, go forward with the investigation, court-martial whoever needs to be court-martialed, and keep going forward with the disaster of Iraq (what else can we do?)
Someone said that marines wouldn't shoot civilians unless ordered to. First of all, no soldier has to obey an illegal order (and yes, it is illegal to kill civilians). While they would probably be court-martialed, thanks to the wonderful freedom of the press, they would probably be released once their story got out. The excuse of "I was ordered to" ended permenantly in Nuremberg in 1946.
Lastly, I don't think the artocities are a result of "sending the poor off to fight." First of all, that suggests that the poor are more capable of atrocities, which I do not beleive. Second, the Marines are the best trained soldiers in the world, with the possible exceptions of SWAT-like anti-terror teams in various countries. To say this is the result of poor training strikes me as unlikely. |
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