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Germany to be thrown out of the world cup...
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| George Smiley |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5081684.stm
Now read the following article...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...and/3034306.stm
I'm sure we were also threatened with being thrown out of the World Cup in France and South Korea cos of our fans (even tho it takes two to tango)
So why not the same warnings against Germany? Cos FIFA/UEFA like to England over and couldn't give a toss that every European nation at this world cup has FAR WORSE FANS THAN ENGLAND do.
Oh and cheers FIFA for giving us the smallest stadiums and the smallest amounts of tickets while Randomanistan gets a stadium two times the size of their population :rolleyes: |
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| LuNaSeA |
First article..
Scores of Cup arrests in Germany
A Poland fan is stopped by police in Dortmund
The game had been identified as a potential source of trouble
More than 400 people were arrested in Germany after clashes around the World Cup match between the host nation and Poland, police have said.
All but three were released after a night in cells, but more than 100 face further investigation.
Police said trouble flared ahead of the match, as they tried to arrest "violent hooligans in the city centre".
A central square was sealed off and bottles were thrown at police in the worst trouble so far at the World Cup.
A police officer and 32 fans were injured in the clashes.
However, authorities said a pre-emptive operation to arrest "problem fans" before the game had been "successful".
About 60 known Polish hooligans were arrested during the day, after being spotted by Polish police working alongside German officers.
The match - which Germany won 1-0 - had long been identified as a potential source of trouble, with the two countries' wartime past and a recent history of football-related violence thought likely to stoke tensions.
'Good signal'
Dortmund police said there had been 429 arrests in total, including 119 from Poland and 278 Germans.
The three still in custody are expected to be released later in the day. Another 115 will be investigated further, mostly for theft and bodily harm.
A Polish fan is helped by a German fan after clashes with police in Dortmund
German fans did their best to help this Polish fan, hurt in clashes
Commissioner Hans Schulze said about 100 of those arrested were believed to be hooligans. The remainder were fans who had drunk too much.
He said that while the pre-emptive operation had been successful he could not guarantee that hooligans would not return.
"We hope it won't happen because we were very [quick to act] today and I think that's quite a good signal - even for the hooligans - not to come again to Dortmund," he said.
About two hours before the evening match kicked off, the festive mood in the sunshine in Dortmund's central Alter Markt square turned dark when German skinheads wearing black T-shirts began to behave threateningly, a police spokesman told Reuters.
"Their tone had become very aggressive so we decided to move in to prevent the situation from escalating," said spokeswoman Saskia Schneider.
Arrest in Dortmund
German and Polish hooligans have a history of violence
"This situation led to attacks on the police. Then it spilled over and different fan groups started attacking each other."
About 120 fans threw fireworks, bottles and chairs at police.
Riot police sealed off the square, isolating the violent fans, before moving in to remove them.
There were thought to be about 7,000 Poles at the match. Poland are out of the competition.
Thousands more Poles made the trip to Dortmund without match tickets, but most are thought to have returned to home after the game.
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Uefa sounds England warning
Turkey fans have traditionally given English clubs a hostile welcome
England could be banned from the 2006 World Cup as well as Euro 2004 if hooligans cause trouble in Turkey in October.
That is the warning from Uefa president Lennart Johansson, who said his organisation was "very worried" about the European Championships qualifier in Istanbul on 11 October.
England's Football Association had already been warned that they faced a ban from Euro 2004 if there was a repeat of the scenes which followed the game against Turkey at The Stadium of Light in April.
But Johansson has warned any ban could extend beyond next year's tournament in Portugal.
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I'm not sticking up for the English hooligans, but what have the Turks got to do to get a final warning?
From Tommy Roberts, UK
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In an interview with the Daily Telegraph newspaper, Johansson said: "We hope nothing happens, but if there are problems then the matter will be discussed at the organising committee of the World Cup and of course for 2004.
"Participation in all the international competitions will have to be reconsidered. Let's hope it doesn't come to that."
Johansson will be in Turkey for the potentially crucial Group Seven qualifier and admitted Uefa fears further trouble.
"We are very worried about the match. We can't ignore certain facts. We have a problem with certain English fans when they travel abroad.
"There is a hooligan element and we have a hooligan element in Turkey."
Uefa president Lennart Johansson
Uefa president Lennart Johansson
But Johansson stressed that the Football Association's efforts to avoid trouble had not gone unnoticed.
England are not taking any tickets for the game and Johansson said: "Both sides are working very hard.
Senes Erzik, the Turkish representative on the Fifa executive, added: "I don't like the idea the English FA are not taking up tickets for the match.
"It's a pity. I dislike the closed door solution. But I suppose there was no alternative."
Ezrik added that it was impossible to stop individual England fans travelling to the game without official tickets.
He added: "How can you stop them as long as they have a valid identity?
"I don't want to speculate on what these individuals might do at the match. But in case of trouble we will all be in trouble."
..... so i dont understand what you're trying to suggest-- that germany should be threatened to get kicked out of the Cup for hooligans? dun see that coming since they're the host nation and also they're not traditionally known to go as bonkers as english/south american/balkan fans go. plus, maybe you should change the title of your thread?? no where do the articles suggest that it's germany that has been threatened.. :conf: lol @ randomanistan |
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| trabozi |
| oh man you brits just need some ................SENSE OF HUMOUR :tongue3 |
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| mellow_head |
| Germany is gonna win the World Cup and laugh at you losers! |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
..... so i dont understand what you're trying to suggest-- that germany should be threatened to get kicked out of the Cup for hooligans? dun see that coming since they're the host nation and also they're not traditionally known to go as bonkers as english/south american/balkan fans go. |
Don't you mean "since they're not England"?
| quote: | | plus, maybe you should change the title of your thread?? no where do the articles suggest that it's germany that has been threatened.. :conf: |
No it doesn't mention that Germany have been threatened, that's my point!!! |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by trabozi
oh man you brits just need some ................SENSE OF HUMOUR :tongue3 |
Well this guy CERTAINLY has a sense of humour!!!
| quote: | Originally posted by mellow_head
Germany is gonna win the World Cup and laugh at you losers! |
:stongue: :haha: :stongue: :haha: :stongue: |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Don't you mean "since they're not England"?
No it doesn't mention that Germany have been threatened, that's my point!!! |
right, i understand that but from the thread title, i was actually thinking that one of the articles you linked was all about how germany was officially threatened to be kicked out. i was just a bit confused but i get it now. :) |
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| LittleGoku |
| quote: | Originally posted by mellow_head
Germany is gonna win the World Cup and laugh at you losers! |
nice joke :toothless |
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| Michael19 |
| Wait for the english too lose and then watch it kick off. Lucky they will be avoiding Poland now in the second round aswell. That would be another big ruck. |
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| JM |
that's right! ban England, so that Germany has a better chance of winning it all! :)
>JM< |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Michael19
Wait for the english too lose and then watch it kick off. Lucky they will be avoiding Poland now in the second round aswell. That would be another big ruck. |
Enjoying the World Cup?!
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Enjoying the World Cup?!
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Too right. Its been great fun watching you lads sturggle against the mighty footballing gods that were paraguy and Trinidad and Tobagoo! |
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