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Here's one for you Jay (pg. 4)
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
WHAT THE ... Captain anti-social engineering is supporting a social engineering initiative.... WHAT ABOUT INDVIDUAL LIBERTIES????
Seriously, you've really just solidified to everyone reading this fourm that you are nothing more then a conservative party hack. How can you possibly bitch about every type of social engineering policy that comes along without regard for it's merits but then support this one? Why just this one? Oh, yeah, because the CPC thought of it. You've just blown all credibility you had with me. |
this post is dead on. |
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| Abercrombie |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
this post is dead on. |
you obviously have not yet read the rest of this thread ;) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I strongly disagree...it's not a safety issue, it's a morality issue.
why is it any more "dangerous" for a 30 yr. old to f**k a 15 yr. old vs. an 18 yr. old f**king a 15 yr old?
If you listen to people, they're not saying "omg, that's so unsafe that the 15 yr old hooked up with an older person"...it's "omg, that's disgusting", "what a pervert", etc.
18 is the arbitrary age by which people are deemed an adult in the eyes of the law...though we see fit to let people drive at 16...and see fit to not let them drink until 19.
so why is 16 any better than 14? It's the morality of the CPC and likeminded voters, nothing more. There is *zero* evidence that I've seen presented thus far to suggest that 16 is that magical number by which an individual can make a more informed choice about with whom they will have sex.
again...this does little else than please paranoid, conservative voters.
it's FINE for us to think of this issue from a moral standpoint...I myself, from a non-religious perspective, feel that it's usually morally wrong for a 40 yr old to sleep with a 14 yr old. It does not follow that our gov't should introduce that moral thinking into, even if it's the majority view, into law.
a great man once said "the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation" ;)
that applies here too. IMHO.
*awaits anti-Trudeau flames* |
so you are saying that sex predators should be allowed to exploit children that are 14 and 15? |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
you obviously have not yet read the rest of this thread ;) |
incorrect, the part where he writes you off is dead on. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
incorrect, the part where he writes you off is dead on. |
care to explain why? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
so you are saying that sex predators should be allowed to exploit children that are 14 and 15? |
A sex predator isn't going to stop diddling 14 and 15 year olds just because you raise the age to 16.
The government has no business in the bedroom.....even a 14 year olds bedroom....the parents have that responsibility. I am sure Mr. Harper will eventually be preaching along side his bed pal George. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
A sex predator isn't going to stop diddling 14 and 15 year olds just because you raise the age to 16.
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DING!
Just because you make it illegal doesn't mean people will stop doing it. It's illegal for people to have sex with 5 year olds yet pedophiles are still out there. It's illegal to traffic in narcotics yet I can still buy them with ease. It's illegal to murder people yet some poor bastard got stabbed to death last night because he was wearing the wrong colours in the wrong neighbourhood.
This law will do nothing to stop 14 and 15 year olds from getting plowed by 22 year olds. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
A sex predator isn't going to stop diddling 14 and 15 year olds just because you raise the age to 16. |
maybe not..but at least now we can prosicute him for it
| quote: | | The government has no business in the bedroom.....even a 14 year olds bedroom....the parents have that responsibility. I am sure Mr. Harper will eventually be preaching along side his bed pal George. |
i see, so you think that the government has a right to legislate adult decisions but should allow children to have their rights left alone?
Very strange indeed. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
maybe not..but at least now we can prosicute him for it
i see, so you think that the government has a right to legislate adult decisions but should allow children to have their rights left alone?
Very strange indeed. |
The government should legislate the same laws for children as it does for adults.....agreed there may be variations on those laws, however, the parents need to be the ones who govern their children and provide them with the base to make good moral decisions. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
The government should legislate the same laws for children as it does for adults..... |
so what you are basically saying is there should be no drinking minimum age and no smoking minimum age among other things.
Either that or a total prohibition on such things for both adults and children.
right?
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
agreed there may be variations on those laws, however, the parents need to be the ones who govern their children and provide them with the base to make good moral decisions. |
aaah so you contradict yourself
so you are in agreement that children need restrictions such as no smoking, screwing or drinking. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
so what you are basically saying is there should be no drinking minimum age and no smoking minimum age among other things.
Either that or a total prohibition on such things for both adults and children.
right?
aaah so you contradict yourself
so you are in agreement that children need restrictions such as no smoking, screwing or drinking. |
No...personally, I don't think there should be any age limit on smoking, drinking, or sex. There are certain things such as driving or joining the army and work force that yes there needs to be age restrictions. On things that are a moral decision the government shouldn't have any say. |
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