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What is Trance?
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| messytechie |
I went to an industry exhibition today for DJ's and producers and labels and the sort and it's got me all confused.
I went round to all of the record labels giving away my CD of my tracks, and had a chat with most of them.
Most of the conversations went as such:
Label: "So what genre are you?"
Me: "Trance"
Label: "Oh we're not really doing trance any more, no one's buying it"
Me: "Oh"
It was at this point I got confused, as at one of these label stands there were 2 big Gabriel and Dresden posters, and at a couple of others they said they were more into stuff like Above and Beyond.
"Wait a sec" I was thinking... "I THOUGHT THAT WAS TRANCE?!?!"
So what I need someone to clarify for me is:
1) According to todays classifications, what is trance? (Artists/tracks??)
2)If Gabriel and Dresden/Above and Beyond arnt Trance what are they? They must be some subcatagory of trance surely?!?
N.B. I know Gabriel and Dresden are quite housey (do some call it Progressive???) but if I had two hats called House and Trance I'd put them in the Trance hat.
N.N.B. I personally don't understand when people say Gabriel and Dresden are House. Their remix os Adain's "Beautiful Things" is one of the most sublime trance tracks ever.....
Please help me....I thought I knew all these genres inside out...it feels like the goal posts have moved!!
Cheers..
Confuddelled Phil - Oh and if someone could tell me what genre my tunes are that would be helpful for approaching labels.....! www.myspace.com/philhiett |
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| Thois |
| If A&B isnt trance, then nothing is |
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| Aquarian |
| It's just that trance has become a dirty word. When they ask you what kind of music you make, never say trance. Always come up with some stupid and needlessly complicated name that sounds more marketable... like Dark Atmospheric Uplifting Hard Tribal-tech Progressive-Electro Techno-House :wtf: |
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| KilldaDJ |
lol
id class some of my early work cheap hard trance lmao |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Thois
If A&B isnt trance, then nothing is |
If by that you mean euro/pop-trance then I agree. |
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| Uber Hypnotiq |
| I think someone just went overboard trying to catogorize the different types and just made a headache... |
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| mysticalninja |
LOL at the bottom.. | quote: | "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" by Daft Punk
Arguably one of their best songs ever. |
Hahaha.. I'm fond of daft punk.. but LOL.
Anyone who knows anything knows daft punk is house. =) |
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| Derivative |
Trance is not a general term. It is very specific. Think of what the word means and how you would go about inducing a trance.
Trance is repetitive by design, doesnt break for any significant length of time and usually consists of very fast 1/16ths and 1/32nds, usually in arpeggios. The point is that trance is like a weave of instruments and interlocking notes, usually played at short intervals. Beyond that anything else is stylistic. But at the root of it, it has to be repetitive. It has to be subliminal/hypnotic.
This will always be a niche market. It always was except for a brief moment in the late 90s when it was still sort of cool to appear on TV mashed off your face or completely out of it.
I dont see how Andain - Beautiful Things (G&D Remix) is trance. For a start it has a breakbeat and breaks down for half the track. And it has sung vocals which have never really been a part of trance music.
I dont especially like that tune but I can see why people do. It certainly has more massmarket appeal and more pop sensibility than trance does, at least these days anyway. Most of the people I know tend to think of us psytrancers as smelly hippies that like tripping on acid to repetitive bleepy music on our dad's allowance. That rep is undeserved but...it just aint cool. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
For a start it has a breakbeat. |
No it doesn't. |
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| mysticalninja |
You have to admit the bass guitar is pretty cool :o
That song is more on the house side that trance, even the non Gabriel & Dresden mix.. (who are pretty much exclusivly undergorund house..) |
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