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msg from Menno de Jong (pg. 2)
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| lex400sc |
| wow so this brings up the point, did menno lose all his music too?? :eek: |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by technofriik
The work visa for a dj costs about $3000 and it's not even guaranteed (s)he gets it. They have to show there's demand for them in the U.S. and it can take over an year to get the visa. Many djs choose not to pay the hefty amount until they get more gigs here so they enter the country as "tourists." Most of them leave vinyls at home and take only cds with them because the vinyls seem to catch the Immigration's attention....:( |
visas are never guaranteed. that sucks though. they should just ship their cds over so that they are even less conspicuous. |
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| technofriik |
| quote: | Originally posted by lex400sc
wow so this brings up the point, did menno lose all his music too?? :eek: |
I haven't heard of them do that to any of the djs. Everything that came to the country "illegally", goes back. |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by technofriik
I haven't heard of them do that to any of the djs. Everything that came to the country "illegally", goes back. |
yeah except the airline lost his luggage |
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| technofriik |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
they should just ship their cds over so that they are even less conspicuous. |
One dj tried that with his vinyls and they were delivered a few days AFTER the gig (the dj already back in his country)....damn UPS! :whip: |
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| DJFaded |
| or you can just put your music on a server, download and burn when you get to the US :) |
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| dj_bas |
Or just come to the US on a tourist visa.
Story time!
So Kaskade was supposed to play this gig in London one night, he shows up to the airport and says he's there on business. Playing a gig the next day and getting paid, that's his business. But guess what? He had no work visa! He was stuck in the airport for a few hours while the promoter had to get everything sorted and explain to UK Customs that he's not getting paid, and that it's a gig for some charity. Several hours roll by and they let Kaskade out of the terminal and he heads to his hotel or whatever. Plays the next night, gets his money, flies back to the US the next day or something. Moral of the story? If you're a DJ don't say that you're in a foreign country on business...less costly :p
editors note:
The only time you could actually NEED a visa is for an extended stay, like a few months. I.e. if they're on a tour of the US and need to be here for more than a week. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by philippe
Lesson (for all promoters): Don't try to cheat CIS. If a DJ who is not a permanent resident is going to "work"/get paid while in the US, (s)he NEEDS a visa to be admitted into the country. |
Because it really makes sense to get a 3,000$ work visa for a DJ who is getting paid even less than that amount.
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If every small DJ who came over here got one, well they wouldnt, and we'd never see any smaller artists who cant afford it come play in the US. I wonder if CIS know how much they're hurting US economic interests in doing so.
I believe this is why Laurent Garnier cancelled his US tour last year :( |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_bas
editors note:
The only time you could actually NEED a visa is for an extended stay, like a few months. I.e. if they're on a tour of the US and need to be here for more than a week. |
unless the us is different than europe you only need a visa if you are working or staying longer than 90 days. this is contingent on you being a citizen of specific countries of course but if you do meet those criteria then you dont need a visa. all you would need is a passport. |
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| philippe |
| Sure, if a DJ is coming here to play for FREE without any kind of contract, then a visa is not needed. But (s)he can't accept ANY job or receive ANY amount of money without a visa. There are no exceptions. If caught lying about it, you can be barred from entering the US again for up to 10 years. |
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| montie |
ing pain in the ass.
I also blame it on Detroit. Gawdamn cess pool of a city :p |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by philippe
Sure, if a DJ is coming here to play for FREE without any kind of contract, then a visa is not needed. But (s)he can't accept ANY job or receive ANY amount of money without a visa. There are no exceptions. If caught lying about it, you can be barred from entering the US again for up to 10 years. |
Yes, this is true and? It still doesnt make any sense. I think there should be brackets or something on the amount of money being made vs visa price, to make it affordable and worthwhile. Otherwise people are going to continue to try and get around it even if it means being deported, because at this point the only other solution is not to play. |
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