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Mixing vs. Track Selection (pg. 2)
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| BlueFear |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
you can have mediocre mixing and excellent tracks but you cant have excellent mixing and mediocre tracks. so in the end the trackselection is what matters most. |
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| Arraias |
| quote: | Originally posted by jahnlay
Track selection is way more important, I've seen many guys who can't mix very well but they get the crowd rocking! |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
you can have mediocre mixing and excellent tracks but you cant have excellent mixing and mediocre tracks. so in the end the trackselection is what matters most. |
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| NiteMer |
| Track selection and programming is more important than technical mixing, but they go hand in hand. Any hack can go online and get Sasha's tracklistings and play those tracks. A truly good dj will play a unique set with fluid changes in energy and mix cleanly (for the most part). Live sets will often have at least a couple of mistakes, but the more adept dj's mistakes will be less severe and, many times, missed by the crowd altogether. When it's all said and done, the dj's job is to rock the crowd and make people dance. Just mixing tracks and waiting for the outro to mix (intro/outro mixing) works, but energy is often lost and the crowd has to wait for the energy to rebuild. Therefore, timing becomes a very important aspect as well. The last and most neglected point to being a good dj (and I speak from the perspective of a dj and a promoter) is to play the right set for the right venue/slot time. Too many times we book a guy to open our nights at the Church and they come out playing a peak hour set. This is not good and is especially bad if you're opening for a headliner. An opening djs' job is to set the next dj up. True professionals understand this and play accordingly. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| I think track selection is the most fundamental. That being said, mixing is what can make a good DJ great. Someone who takes a great selection of tracks and then mixes them in a unique and technically good way is much better than someone who trainwrecks a series of great tracks. Reference the Sasha La Mania set from last year. Great track selection, though I thought the transitions subpar. I still love the set because of the tracklisting, but how much better would it have been if the transitions had been tighter and smoother? |
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| TaylorR |
| well, im glad to see that most are more towards track selection. I agree, both are very important, but i just think it is quite odd when people get all pissy with Tijs mixing or even a bit worse....paul oakenfold's :nervous: . Its more the tracks that matter so their mixing is good in my book :D . |
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| NiteMer |
| quote: | Originally posted by TaylorR
well, im glad to see that most are more towards track selection. I agree, both are very important, but i just think it is quite odd when people get all pissy with Tijs mixing or even a bit worse....paul oakenfold's :nervous: . Its more the tracks that matter so their mixing is good in my book :D . |
Tijs is a great track selector, but his mixing is sometimes so awful that it counteracts the track selection. Other times, his mixing is spot on. But every dj makes mistakes. The thing about Tijs that I think is worse than Oakie is that Oakie is sometimes inconsistent, but he usually corrects quickly and masks his mistakes. Tiesto train wrecks really hard a lot of times. When you wreck, anyone can hear it. Most of Oakie's mistakes are usually less noticeable. Both Tiesto and Oakie sounded really good their last times in Denver though. Both impressed me and reminded me of their former selves (Pre 2000). Only reason I get annoyed when Tiesto plays a poor technical set, is that I think he's not really trying. When you get paid the money he does, you should play your heart out every night. That's my only real issue. |
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| smallSHEEP |
I have just done this awesome mix by my own hand:
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Now do you really think that this e could be improved by better mixing or beat matching. :stongue: |
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| Trancin' Tico |
| I prefer the track selection mostly.....but, the mixing has to be good. I always listen for the perfect time when the next track is to be mixed in and a clean beat match. |
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| Inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by jahnlay
Track selection is way more important, I've seen many guys who can't mix very well but they get the crowd rocking! |
| quote: | Originally posted by djpaulc
i.e. Scot Project |
+ Steve Porter
...Popularity comes from Track Selection, reputation comes from mixing. I'd say track selection & progression still win out most of the time when it's live. For recorded sets, which is what I hear a lot more of and, thus, serve as the basis on which I decide who I will and will not see live, the boring or poorly placed track isn't nearly as offensive as bad beatmatching, deafening EQing, or an Emergency "I'm trainwrecking!! No more, please!!" slap of the fader.
Also, it depends on the type of music. For more simplistic or energetic stuff, transitions don't matter as much as hearing explosive tracks you like in the right places. For calmer & more complex or advanced stuff, your attention is going towards the intricacies of the music, not to how many people around you are waving their hands or jumping, so poor mixing hits you harder. |
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| movingincircles |
well if you ask me
anyone doing anything crazy, the track selection just goes down the drain
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AIo...&search=enferno
while I'm not saying his trackselection is utter crap, I would definately pay to see this live |
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| washout |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Most average clubbers don't care about mixing, their focus is on the tracks played.
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hhihihih. |
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| luisjb82 |
| quote: | Originally posted by alexlosy
I think that there is a lot of energy transferred in a very tight mix. I think the mix is very inportant to maintain the clubbers' confidence in the dj, but most importantly, the track selection makes the crowd what it is.
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I was just thinking that... it happened to me like 2 weeks ago, too many trainwrecks in the process totally ruined the confidence in the dj, regardless of his track selection.
Track selection is just a tad more important than mixing, but it can't reach a point where a dj will totally forget the basics about mixing. |
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