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| substorm |
| quote: | Originally posted by bluebird
"[Music] is like a frog: you can dissect the thing, but it somehow dies in the process."
Your frog's dead, and you realize that so many people have dead frogs these days... look what my dead frog can do, yippeeee, and if i smack it to the ground.. it makes a good attack sound for a kickdrum |
LOL,:D Yea, but you shouldnt eat the poison ones! :crazy: |
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| EtherealSL |
we're not lucky by any means. we understand engineering and sound design because we actually the time to read and produce and understand the amount of work that goes into making music. not just EDM but of all kinds of music.
the worst thing is dealing with ignorance from the outside world who doesn't understand what you listen to or produce. people who refuse to look outside of the top 40 on the radio just won't understand, "Oh, you make that techno music." but then when i show them a recent hip hop or pop beat i made, i suddenly become cool again.
we're fortunate enough to have open minds that allow us to appreciate more than the commonplace, boring sounds of pollution that comes out of the radio. |
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| substorm |
This might sound strange, but my girlfriend loves this track with Shakira and Wyclef jean - Hips dont lie, or something, and that song has a really bad mixdown, its like they pasted in her voice i a bad way.
Anyway, i told that to my girlfriend and she thought i was strange. My point is, that i wouldnt even have notice this for about 3 year ago, and that can be really irrtaing sometimes.
Maybe i took a bad exampel of track, but i hope understand what im rying to say!
Cheers |
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| Storyteller |
No this is a very good example! I have to same thing with this track. It indeed sounds as if they pasted shakira's voice over the mix, it doesn't blend in. Which is called bad mixing from my point of view as well.
On top of that it just doesn't shine, the beats and trumpets (I think) just sound dull and the overal mix is not transparent at all. |
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| crazedonee |
I was there too we all been there
all i wanted was a sampler and a drum machine
and i would just make a drum loop and sample whatever...
in time i learned what i really needed
like a bassplayer
a synthesizer
a workstation
needed to learn synthesis
like lfos,envelopes,modulation,what each effect did,
until i got the sound that i wanted
then
music theory
chord progression
sequencers
velocity
automation
how to make leads
how to make arps/melodies/ pads /
how to make happy leads
how to make dark sad leads etc
how to record
how to bounce to audio
simple stuff like that .
i guess we all learn on different levels i just wish i would have known what i know now back then...but then again better late than never. |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
No this is a very good example! I have to same thing with this track. It indeed sounds as if they pasted shakira's voice over the mix, it doesn't blend in. Which is called bad mixing from my point of view as well.
On top of that it just doesn't shine, the beats and trumpets (I think) just sound dull and the overal mix is not transparent at all. |
It's a sample, probably ripped off a vinyl. |
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| Storyteller |
not everything you hear are samples grabbed from vinyl, it just can't be. Other than that they sould have spent more time one the mix imo. The track isn't half bad but the mixing really get's on my nerves nad it's the only reason why I really dislike the track.
Even if large amounts are sampled, it never justifies a bad mixdown as this imo. |
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| substorm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
not everything you hear are samples grabbed from vinyl, it just can't be. Other than that they sould have spent more time one the mix imo. The track isn't half bad but the mixing really get's on my nerves nad it's the only reason why I really dislike the track.
Even if large amounts are sampled, it never justifies a bad mixdown as this imo. |
+1
And i find it hard to belive that they have ripped a vinyl.
For me its like the main track was made in one studio without her voice, waiting t get that dry vocal sample from shakira, and then they have tried to mix the vocal in the track, but in a bad way. |
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| mysticalninja |
The song's introduction is an extracted from the song "Amores Como El Nuestro" by Jerry Rivera. The distinctive trumpet flourish was also previously heard on the song "Déjà Vu (Uptown Baby)" by Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz.
Hip-Hop is all about samples. |
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| PutBoy |
| quote: | Originally posted by substorm
This might sound strange, but my girlfriend loves this track with Shakira and Wyclef jean - Hips dont lie, or something, and that song has a really bad mixdown, its like they pasted in her voice i a bad way.
Anyway, i told that to my girlfriend and she thought i was strange. My point is, that i wouldnt even have notice this for about 3 year ago, and that can be really irrtaing sometimes.
Maybe i took a bad exampel of track, but i hope understand what im rying to say!
Cheers |
Yeah, what's up with that vocal mixing? :S It's not a good mixed song at all.
I totally agree with you to. When listening to a track I listen to different things than my friends do. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
The song's introduction is an extracted from the song "Amores Como El Nuestro" by Jerry Rivera. The distinctive trumpet flourish was also previously heard on the song "Déjà Vu (Uptown Baby)" by Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz.
Hip-Hop is all about samples. |
True but that's not the answer to this question.
Again, the mixdown is done badly. It's plain simple, All blends in well except Shakira's voice. So the sampling isn't the problem here. As substorm said it is quite probable they tried to mix in Shakira's voice in a fairly late stage, and it seems like they haven't put a lot of effort into it. However if you leave her voice out it will quite probably sound decent but then it is boring because nobody is singing hehe. |
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