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What is the difference between Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2?
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J-han
Im about to buy a new computer, what is X2 (if someone can explain) and what do you think about it? should I go for one or is it something I really dosnt need?

I also need your opinion about Ram.
Is 2 gig more than I will use? Maybe 1 gig would be enough?

I use FL and want to use alot of VST:S, thats what I want to build the computer after.

Its a djungle for me, thanks for any help

Johan
KilldaDJ
ram, u will need tons of that, even if u dont get lots of it, be sure to invest on a motherboard capable of supporting like 2 gig of ram and perhaps a decent processor as well
Eldritch
There's a huge difference. The X2 is a dual core processor while the other is only single core.
J-han
OK, but whats the difference between a dual core and a single core?
Whats better with a dual, and is it really necessary to have a dual core for music production?
I know very little about computers so some of my questions may not make sense, but I am really glad for all help I can get.


Killda
So I should spend my money on ram rather than a expensive processor?
Rather 2 gig ram than a dual core processor?
Low Profile
If you are using a host program with dual core support it is a MUST HAVE! If not, switch to a dual core ready host! Dual core basically means there are two CPU's crammed into one, so while one one core can be handling your music program, the other is free for internet exlporer to use, without having an impact on your music application... Your operating system automatically balances load between cores. This is a VERY good thing to have

Some hosts (Live, FL Studio, etc.) don't support this, and can only use one core, while others can take full use of the dual core system, which will (in theory) run 2x as fast as a corresponding single core CPU.

1 gig ram should be enough if you don't use any huge sample libraries, but 2 gigs is good to have. IF you're into huge sample libraries then 2 gig is pretty much a must-have.
J-han
OK, so in theory. If I should have only one program running, there would be no difference between a single or dual core, but if I have two running at once it would be a hugh difference?

I use Fruity so what you mean is that Fruity will have no use of this, but other programs may? Or is it imposible to run FL on a dual core?
KilldaDJ
well if u dont want ur computer to suffer when ur producing i suggest go full out on the 2 gig of ram and the dual core processor, that way u know ur setup will take the whole load with a pinch of salt
RickyM
Hey mate...I just got a new PC with a dual core X2 , mines a 4600+ with just 1gb of RAM. I say get the fastest processor you can afford, with just the 1gb of RAM, as it's much easier and cheaper to upgrade RAM than a processor.
My flp files that jitter and stuttered like mad in my old comp ( a 2600+)now run really smoothly.
Hope that's some help.
hereander
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Originally posted by J-han
OK, so in theory. If I should have only one program running, there would be no difference between a single or dual core, but if I have two running at once it would be a hugh difference?


not exactly. if you have apps that dont support dc then the os schedules the tasks for both cores, so the single app doesnt run faster. but if you have a host like sonar, which i use with a dualcore opteron, then the host is taking care of that and delegates its own threads to the cores (like vsts) which gives you a big performance boost
J-han
What about this? AMD S939 Athlon X2 4200+, 1024MB

Any soundcard suggestions?

>>FK
J-han, go to komplett.se and grab yourself a AM2 instead ;)
Magnus
Let me put it this way...

My old music box was a P4 3.2Ghz HT (Hyper-Threading) HT kind of emulates a 2nd processor by using unused processing power from the existing, single core CPU unlike dual core which is physically 2 procs in one. On this box I ran Cubase and things were good, although I had to freeze and bump quite a bit of tracks.

I ditched this box and got a P4 3.0Ghz Dual Core. Although being 200Mhz slower in clockspeed compared to my older box, this Dual Core box crushed the HT by nearly 3 times the power. I can run Cubase projects with ridiculous amounts of tracks going on all in real time. Its like pure freedom to do whatever you want without having to worry about your CPU maxing out. The later builds of SX3 have specific support for dual core. RAM is important, but trust me on this. Get a dual core above all else. You'll thank yourself for it later I promise.
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