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Help with Trance Mastering (pg. 2)
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| LENG |
| quote: | Originally posted by JustinMead
Wrong answer :p
The only way to learn is to do it yourself. Thats just like saying dont play soccer or basketball because where not as good as the pros ;) |
wrong reply :P
you should read carefully that sentence i wrote earlier. i said "why not..." it's not a must. and if you would read his original post, he didn't mention anything about "learning" either. so, read properly before you counter anyone's post. |
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| aliendj |
Atalntis' reply made me feel something that overall MIDRANGE of my EQ needs gain. I did that, & also some gain for the midrange instruments as he said. it sounds much better!! thank you.
I just have to fix this. the kick & the bass, this is my main problem now! Now when I compare my track to other pro. tracks, I feel my base drum (kick) isnt as powerful as I want. If I give more bass, it is too bassy! when I reduce its bass, it is weak! Im trying to do a powerful, dominant & deep kick.
thank you everyone :) |
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| thecYrus |
| usually if you boost the higher frequencies of your bassdrum it feels more punchy. it's not the bass frequency which is responsible for that. |
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| KilldaDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by thecYrus
usually if you boost the higher frequencies of your bassdrum it feels more punchy. it's not the bass frequency which is responsible for that. |
doesnt the bassline have any say in this equation?
bassline and kick gives the track that 'drive' in my opinion
compress the 2 together |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnus
Check out Atlantis-AR on TA. I'm not sure if he is still mastering but you could PM him. He mastered a few of my tracks and he will work with you to get the mixdown to the point where he can take over and work his magic. His prices are awesome too. |
No, I don't master anymore, but that's why I'm here giving advice. |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| quote: | Originally posted by aliendj
I just have to fix this. the kick & the bass, this is my main problem now! Now when I compare my track to other pro. tracks, I feel my base drum (kick) isnt as powerful as I want. If I give more bass, it is too bassy! when I reduce its bass, it is weak! Im trying to do a powerful, dominant & deep kick. |
I wouldn't boost the bass more, as you already have an 'exposed' bass-end, as I mentioned in my first post. What I mean is that you don't have the upper bass needed to support the lower bass, so you just get this weak, boomy sound. Try boosting the kick around 150 Hz to give it more punch, and reducing the click around 10k. Then, run it through a hard compressor to give you that powerful level. |
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| JustinMead |
| quote: | Originally posted by LENG
wrong reply :P
you should read carefully that sentence i wrote earlier. i said "why not..." it's not a must. and if you would read his original post, he didn't mention anything about "learning" either. so, read properly before you counter anyone's post. |
He also said
"I have tried many softwares like Waves & O-Zone, but still never satisfied with the results."
Sure sounds to me like he wants to learn, why would he have even posted about his mastering, obviously to get help and learn. You dont have to read his text, read his actions. He might not of mentioned learning, but this thread sure implys it ;)
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| LENG |
| quote: | Originally posted by JustinMead
He also said
"I have tried many softwares like Waves & O-Zone, but still never satisfied with the results."
Sure sounds to me like he wants to learn, why would he have even posted about his mastering, obviously to get help and learn. You dont have to read his text, read his actions. He might not of mentioned learning, but this thread sure implys it ;)
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you seem not to get the whole point of it... anyway, if you're assuming what people is trying to say, well then, allow me to assume as well. i assume his main intention is trying to FIND a solution here. of course, he can learn from the solution given should he ask for more details. and i assume you don't really like to digest what people are trying to say either. |
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| aliendj |
Im sorry if I have caused any problem between you...
If you guys believe me, I've spent MONTHS for mastering. im doing everything I can to learn it. tried Waves, Ozone, T-racks, different speakers (JBL, ALESIS...) Now I think hardest part of making a track is the mixing/mastering. Im really tired of trying hard but I won't quit till im done. I've been working on my album for 3 years, so I can not release it as it is, with a bad mixing/mastering.
again thanks to everyone trying to help me with this :) if you still have more tips. trick, please post! |
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| JustinMead |
"and i assume you don't really like to digest what people are trying to say either."
:rolleyes:
No problem, this convo should of been threw PM's anyway, but half of his posts dont make sense anyways. |
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| Lindo |
| A lot of highs is right...I think you need to work on the actually structure, different sounds, adding some atmosphere to it. The mix is overcompressed and yeah the mastering of course isn't all that great. Work on your structure and elements first with absolutely no effects, add effects like delay and eq then work on your mixdown while adding compression and maybe fixing the eq here. Once you've added all your automations by now and think the track is mixed down well, now start on your mastering. The track should sound pretty perfect right now. All you really want to add is some limiting to get it "up front" and then some other effects maybe like stereo wideners, eq on the whole mix, maybe a vintage warmer. Ozone will do a good job. You can even use the presets, they're still pretty amazing if you don't know much about mastering. |
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| azndragon0613 |
| Looks like you kind of over eqed the whole sample in my opinion. Seems like there is a huge boost near the highs which becomes piercing to the ears after time. Your sound is crisp but very thin...so if you want it to make it in the pro's world you need to concentrate on that factor of the mixdown. Try not to eq that much. Most people over eq and end up playing catch up later on trying to fix it. Excessive eq/compression causes the instrument/sound to appear unnatural *learned from Derivative* and unpleasant to listen to. What I like to do is to remove all the effects or atleast turn them off and then play with the instrument levels and synthesis. Eq/compress when absolutely necessary. The cleaner your mixdown, the less of a need for mastering. |
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