|
Ecstasy Overdose in Ajax (pg. 3)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Tb. |
| quote: | Originally posted by sticky_shoes
And MDMA is the most common form of E produced I believe...hence I would suspect that was the type of meth made by those two men... |
I think you're a little confused. MDMA and Meth are two different things, often combined to cheapen the cost of making pills because Meth is the less expensive of the two to produce. As for saying that in its chemical name they both contain the word "Methamphetamine" does not make it the same thing. Meth acts as adrenaline and stimulates dopamines, while MDMA flushes your serotonin creating that euphoric sensation. Being a derivative of doesnt make it the a type of, thats chemistry...a few slight changes in the chemical composition can change a substence completely. |
|
|
| legendary_waz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Oh, and I love how they say E pills are geared towards kids because they're colorful. By the same train of logic we could say cocaine is geared towards kids cause cocaine looks a lot like sugar, which kids love. |
your analogies rock! always make me laugh. |
|
|
| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by legendary_waz
your analogies rock! always make me laugh. |
FROSTY flakes, hmmm? TONY the tiger? Always going, "GRRREEEEAAAAT!". I always knew there was something fishy about the cereal - they're hooking kids on cocaine through cereal! |
|
|
| Tb. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I dunno if that smiley means you're kidding, but MDMA is not a type of a methamphetamine. It's like saying carbon dioxide (a harmless atmospheric gas) is a type of carbon monoxide (a highly toxic gas). Those extra atoms really do make the difference in chemical compounds. Meth is not MDMA and never will be.
Oh, and I love how they say E pills are geared towards kids because they're colorful. By the same train of logic we could say cocaine is geared towards kids cause cocaine looks a lot like sugar, which kids love. |
wish i read ur post earlier, save me the trouble of explaining :tongue2 |
|
|
| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tb.
I think you're a little confused. MDMA and Meth are two different things, often combined to cheapen the cost of making pills because Meth is the less expensive of the two to produce. As for saying that in its chemical name they both contain the word "Methamphetamine" does not make it the same thing. Meth acts as adrenaline and stimulates dopamines, while MDMA flushes your serotonin creating that euphoric sensation. Being a derivative of doesnt make it the a type of, thats chemistry...a few slight changes in the chemical composition can change a substence completely. |
That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them. |
|
|
| Tb. |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them. |
Yeah, I'd say most pills ARE Meth with a touch of MDMA. Its really hard to find a clean pills these days, but when you do you quickly realize what you've been missing lol. |
|
|
| _EuG_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them. |
Thats why if u party, get Molly |
|
|
| sticky_shoes |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I dunno if that smiley means you're kidding, but MDMA is not a type of a methamphetamine. It's like saying carbon dioxide (a harmless atmospheric gas) is a type of carbon monoxide (a highly toxic gas). Those extra atoms really do make the difference in chemical compounds. Meth is not MDMA and never will be. |
Goshness...dude!!! Of course MA and MDMA will never be the same...but I didn't say they were...But, WTF? Not a very good analogy...actually the silliest "chemistry" thing I've heard! :p Obviously CO2 and CO are different...in terms of their chemical scaffold...(pls. refer to your chem text!!!)
Hmmm...Time for a chemistry lesson...
Methamphetamine...
MDMA...
If you notice by their chemical structure...They share the same chemical scaffold...however...the MDMA is modified (dioxygen ring by the benzene ring)...but still a TYPE (maybe the word form would have been more appropriate) of methamphetamine...
I didn't say they were the same...MA is the generic form and MDMA is the modified...
But...I do admire your tenacity...muahaha....don't mess with the chemist, dude :p |
|
|
| riskytrader |
I knew a career in science wasn't in the cards for me in Grade 11 chemistry. I still get shudders anytime I think about nomenclature. I just could never understand that stuff :(
:nervous: |
|
|
| sticky_shoes |
| You guys are makin' my morning :D :D :D |
|
|
| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Speak for yourself, amature. |
lol.
The media is so ridiculous on this issue...did mr. coroner know that pure MDMA used to be perscribed by trained doctors?
Pills are risky.
*Pure* mdma, in small doses, is not any more risky than your average perscription narcotic. |
|
|
| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
FROSTY flakes, hmmm? TONY the tiger? Always going, "GRRREEEEAAAAT!". I always knew there was something fishy about the cereal - they're hooking kids on cocaine through cereal! |
I can understand Frosted flakes...but Tony I don't. That was just something made up through friends. However I don't think that was really their intent. The Frosted part is just getting them excited for more SUGAR! (However, I'm assuming there was a hint of sarcasm in your post) ;) |
|
|
|
|
