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Question on Drum Programming (For Cubase/Battery Users)
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| bbounce |
Guys,
Any suggestions on what's the best way to program drums in Cubase using Battery? So far, I've been going back 'n forth between the Battery cells and the Cubase drum maps and it's kinda awkward. Perhaps, I've been spoiled by Reason's Redrum which made auditioning samples and programing the 4/4 patterns a breeze. Is there any way to get that sort of streamlined programming in Cubase? Or maybe Battery isn't the best choice for drum lines?
Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions... |
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| tecnolover |
I'm not sure what exactly you are asking here...
Any specific questions?
I use cubase and battery for my beats exclusively.
Choose your samples and lay them out on the matrix how you want.
then record your drum parts...
I set up 7 midi tracks in cubase, each assigned to battery
kick, snare, clap, hats, cymbals, percs, sound FX
this way i have full control over each drum sound and can mute parts throughout the song and bring them back and so on..
then i stick all these tracks in a folder track called 'drums' or whatever so it's neat and organized.
the battery number of outputs will be up to your discretion and where you want to route each cell for processing |
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| bbounce |
Thanks for the input.
I guess what I was really asking is if there was any way to get Battery to work like the Reason's Redrum in term's of laying out the drum patterms, but it sounds like the answer is no....
tecnolover: do you record your drum parts thru the midi keyboard or do you draw it in the drum editor? thanks |
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| dj_kane |
| use cubase with reason rewired thats what i do. really good for using the redrum for your percs and drums then in the cubase mixer you can add the necessary effects. |
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| beats and beeps |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
use cubase with reason rewired thats what i do. really good for using the redrum for your percs and drums then in the cubase mixer you can add the necessary effects. |
I'm just learning cubase, and i can't understand the whole rewire thing.
I can open cubase, select reason from devices, select the main channels, and then open reason, and the two programs are synced, but how do you actually get sounds from reason into the cubase arrangement? |
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| dj_kane |
you arrange your drum patterns and percussion in reasons squencer. thats how i do it. then say i want a synth to begin on the 5 bar id click the 5th bar in reason so its aligned then go back into cubase draw my midi then keep doing it like that. sounds complicated but its very easy.
there is the option of exporting your midi out of reason and importing it into cubase then routing the output to say the redrum although its too much unnecessary work. |
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| pixxxan |
hi. i use cubase sx 3 and battery 2 for my drums too, and i think this is the best way to work on percussions. battery is a great program, its so much better than redrum, just a little harder to get the hang on,but once u do, the options for editing the percs are the best. just dont quit, dont try to use it as redrum beacause they are very different and my suggestion is to erase all ur redrum experience from ur hard drive, and start using battery with a fresh perspective. i know its hard to give up something u really like, but ur music will thanck u. if not willing to do that, well u can just use rewire and stick with redrum. although i think its it simplicity that makes the drums sound so "programed", with battery u can make them have more expression.
cheers |
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| beats and beeps |
So is there a way to record what comes out of reason, or a certain channel in reason, as audio, in an audio channel in cubase?
All i've been doing it rendering it to wav and dropping it in cubase, but its pretty annoying doing this, because all you can do with it is audio edit it once its in cubase.
Also, are you saying that there is a way to bring the midi sequence into cubase, and be able to edit/redraw that midi sequence, and still have it trigger the samples in redrum? That would be awesome. |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
Also, are you saying that there is a way to bring the midi sequence into cubase, and be able to edit/redraw that midi sequence, and still have it trigger the samples in redrum? That would be awesome. |
yea you can do that by getting your drum loop in reason export it as a midi file the import midi file to cubase. your input will be your sound card or midi controller try both then the output is the redrum you have running in reason.
although thats the complicated way. when you record into your reason sequencer then do a mix down in cubase it mixes down your reason sequncer to thus saving time on you having to import etc. hard to explain it. |
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| pixxxan |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
So is there a way to record what comes out of reason, or a certain channel in reason, as audio, in an audio channel in cubase?
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yes man, u can export audio just like u do with vsts, just setup ur devices -- reason-- then solo the rewire channels on cubase. then on reason put between markers in reasons sequencer the loop u want to record and solo them. then just do an audio mixdown in cubase. then an audio channel with the recorded loop from reason will be created.
it also records any automations done in reason.. |
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| DJSentinel |
| quote: | Originally posted by bbounce
Guys,
Any suggestions on what's the best way to program drums in Cubase using Battery? So far, I've been going back 'n forth between the Battery cells and the Cubase drum maps and it's kinda awkward. Perhaps, I've been spoiled by Reason's Redrum which made auditioning samples and programing the 4/4 patterns a breeze. Is there any way to get that sort of streamlined programming in Cubase? Or maybe Battery isn't the best choice for drum lines?
Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions... |
Ableton Live's built in drum machine is great. I would try it out. |
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| Lindo |
| Are you speaking about impulse djsentinel? I never actually tried it since I wanted to use battery instead but...are there any key advantages to it? |
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