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tathi
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"My spirit" sounds too religious. Maybe "Of spirits" or "Of good spirits".

well literally 'de' = 'of' but i changed it because it didn't sound right unless in the quote 'me' was meant to be 'yo' which is I in English

but my spanish is , we will have to wait for Lira :p
Lira
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Originally posted by tathi
but my spanish is , we will have to wait for Lira :p

:D

The translation is not literal (I'm trying to make it sound natural) and I'm in a bit of a hurry so it might not be perfect:
Fidel: “Me encuentro de buen ánimo”

El líder cubano aprovechó un programa de tertulia de la televisión cubana para dar a conocer el primer mensaje tras su decisión de delegar el gobierno en su hermano, Raúl Castro

El presidente Fidel Castro envió un nuevo mensaje a los cubanos: se encuentra estable y de buen ánimo tras haber sufrido una operación intestinal.

"Es una situación estable... de ánimo, me encuentro perfectamente bien", manifestó Castro a través de un mensaje leído por un locutor.

En su mensaje, Castro reiteró que se encuentra perfectamente bien; el país, dijo, marcha perfectamente bien, y añadió que el país está preparado para enfrentarse a cualquier agresión.

El mandatario dijo que todo sobre su malestar y su posterior operación se conocerá a su debido tiempo.

Castro anunció la víspera que de manera provisional delegaba los principales cargos en el Partido Comunista, en el gobierno y las Fuerzas Armadas a su hermano Raúl, ministro de Defensa, la primera vez en 47 años de régimen.
Fidel: "I feel fine"

The Cuban Leader used a TV program to transmit the first message after his decision to delegate the government to his brother, Raul Castro.

President Fidel Castro sent a new message to Cubans: his health condition is stable and he's feeling well after going through a intestinal surgery.

"It's a stable situation... with energy, I'm perfectly fine", declared Castro through a message read by an announcer.

In his message, Castro stressed the fact that he's perfectly well; the country, he said, is going perfecly well, and he added that the country is ready to face any agression.

The agent (!?) said that everything about his illness and following surgery will be known in the right time.

Castro declared the day befor that, temporarely, he would delegate the main occupations of the Communist Party, in the government and Army, to his brother Raul, Minister of Defence, for the first time in 47 years of regime.
malek
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Originally posted by tathi
I saw an interesting documentary on Cuba recently: the life expectancy is much higher than the US, everyone gets great medical treatment not just the rich, in fact Cuba has more Doctors per capita than any other country in the world, their Pharmacutical industry is expanding having made some very innovative drugs which many third world countries buy off them rather than the cuthroat American pharmacutical countries and quite a few other areas where it beats the US

i'm not saying Castro is a good leader or anything, but you've got to admire the small Carribean country. I'd much rather live in Cuba than the US

porque mucho mas bonitas senioritas y playas :D


Doctors make a very good salary in Cuba......... 35 euros a month!!:wtf:

Have you been to Cuba? Cause you don't know what you're talking about ;)

The goal of the revolucion was to give the poor what they needed, education, health, food, security, etc.

Castro has succeeded, but why haven't he stepped down and end the revolucion?

He should leave a country to his people after his departure, not a regime.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by tathi
I'd much rather live in Cuba than the US

based on the health care?
tathi
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Originally posted by malek
Doctors make a very good salary in Cuba......... 35 euros a month!!:wtf:

Have you been to Cuba? Cause you don't know what you're talking about ;)

The goal of the revolucion was to give the poor what they needed, education, health, food, security, etc.

Castro has succeeded, but why haven't he stepped down and end the revolucion?

He should leave a country to his people after his departure, not a regime.

Nope but i'd love to go and if i have enough money i should be there after i do South America next year ;) I've seen quite a few documentaries on Cuba that confirmed everything i've mentioned and i agree with you that Fidel should have stepped down decades ago (revolutionaries are great at leading a revolutions not managing a country) Many people have lost the ideological zeal they once shared with Castro, especially the youth who were born decades after the revolution but are afraid to speak out, the once lucrative Cuban Sugar industry is failing leaving many more people impoverished and unemployed etc. etc.

A change is definately needed but considering that Cuba is a third world country operating under an embargo it is running quite well comparitively so to other third world countries, and that is to be admired whether you agree with its form of government or not. I just hope once there is a regime change the geriatric Forida crowd doesn't turn the country into a sterile tourist trap.
skot_e
Cuba: The 51st state.
malek
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Originally posted by tathi
geriatric Forida crowd doesn't turn the country into a sterile tourist trap.


it already is, but it will be worse.

600k canadians go to cuba every year.
Lira
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Originally posted by malek
Doctors make a very good salary in Cuba......... 35 euros a month!!:wtf:

Have you been to Cuba? Cause you don't know what you're talking about ;)

The goal of the revolucion was to give the poor what they needed, education, health, food, security, etc.

Castro has succeeded

If you've ever been to Cuba, probably you've seen what the government wants you to see - the natives usually say there are the "Foreigner's Cuba" and the "Navite's Cuba".

I know a Cuban doctor who fled the country. Sure, there are plenty of doctors in Cuba, but that's not much different from all the communist countries that train athletes as a way of showing how great their country is (specially when it is not).

The Cuban doctor I know says food is a problem, as well as wages: it's considered rude to arrive at someone's house at dinner (or lunch) time for that reason. And, being part of a planned economy, they don't receive money the way we do - they receive "credits" (which seems to be a heritage of American influence before the revolution).
rustyryan
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Originally posted by skot_e
Cuba: The 51st state.


What? Cuba is still embargoed by the US.

If you are a United States citizen and you sneak into Cuba through Mexico, you get in big trouble, they fine you thousands of dollars and you can even face some jail time. Cuba is still very much blacklisted by the United States. The only way to go there as an American is to go to Mexico and pay someone to fly you. And even if you do that, the US gov't investigates trips you take. I have friends who have gone, and one of them got in trouble because the US figured out that he went to Cuba on his 'trip to Mexico'.

Anyhow.. stop flinging FUD around.
BiG-_BoSS
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Originally posted by CHRles
Not that Bush is the greatest president the US has ever had (Clinton was far better in my eyes), far from it, but even the worse president of the United States so far has been 100 times better then any Russian president, and a million times better then a ruthless dictator named Castro whose been in power (BY FORCE) for 50 years.

Well, lets see what is wrong with what you just said. There has been two elected presidents and Putin is actually doing something better than Bush. That you want to go back into history? What about the Tsars Ivan, Peter? Both of them were greater and will always remain greater than any US president past or current or in the future no American president will accomplish what they did.

malek
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Originally posted by Lira
If you've ever been to Cuba, probably you've seen what the government wants you to see - the natives usually say there are the "Foreigner's Cuba" and the "Navite's Cuba".


I was at a resort, but went to Havana, a 2+ hours away drive.

Sure the guide showed us what the govt wants us to see, but he can't hide the poverty and the decay of the 200kms separating our hotel and the nice parts of Havana.

Food is a problem in Cuba, having the best ophtalmologists in the world won't fix the illnesses from the lack of basic vitamins.

crazy world.
Lira
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Originally posted by malek
Food is a problem in Cuba, having the best ophtalmologists in the world won't fix the illnesses from the lack of basic vitamins.

crazy world.

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