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Cakewalk products. I have to ask..
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| David Adams |
I see many posts about sequencers, VSTs, DXIs, etc. It's very rare I see any mention of Cakewalk.
Why is that?
Personally, I find Cakewalk products high quality. Sonar is a great program. Rapture is an excellent synth for Trance style music......in my opinion.
Can someone give me reasons why Cakewalk products are not mentioned that often here? Please refrain from comments that don't explain the reasoning like: "Because they suck".
I would like to understand the reasoning behind this phenomena? I might be the one missing something. I just want to make sure I have all the details before I consider switching. |
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| LENG |
| i think it's not the synth's problem... should be the users. i'm still quite noob in using matrix-styled synths cuz they don't have friendly interfaces which is not understandable in 1 glance... if i were to use synths like vanguard or superwave & likes, i know what the knobs do... so, i'd say u keep working with rapture cuz matrix ain't just there for display. |
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| mysticalninja |
| It's not as popular but I know pro's using it. And it seems to be very similar to cubase. |
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| David Adams |
| I suppose communities as a whole tend to lean towards a piece of software. I know alot of people use it. I guess this community just leans in other directions. No big deal; that's just the dynamics of how things work sometimes. I'm sticking with Sonar. I know it and am very comfortable with it. I guess that is all that really matters. |
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| Centra Spike |
| I could be wrong but I think for a long time Sonar didn't support VST plugins which might have something to do with its relative unpopularity. |
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| R2Project |
| quote: | Originally posted by David Adams
I suppose communities as a whole tend to lean towards a piece of software. I know alot of people use it. |
I'm told this is a europe/america split. In the U.S Sonar is more popular, in Europe, Cubase is. This could be that Sonar wasn't really marketed (with avengance) in Europe until Sonar 2 I think.
| quote: | | I could be wrong but I think for a long time Sonar didn't support VST plugins which might have something to do with its relative unpopularity. |
Up until version 3 VSTi support was via a third party Wrapper. With the release of Project 5 V1 Cakewalk brought that wrapper into the Cakewalk family. I think as of Sonar 5 it can't really be thought as a wrapper, more a .dll that can be updated seperately from the main program to keep up with Steinberg's ever changing (and sometimes secret) specs.
BTW, I think fruity loops also uses a wrapper and the waves plugins are in fact DXi with an internal VSTi wrapper ?
Andy |
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| TaylorR |
| well, if i had the money, i think i would lean more towards cakewalk products such as project 5 ver. 2 and sonar. you can always rewire as well. cakewalk's GUI's are better suited for my tastes but everyone is different so each to his/ her's own. |
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| kitphillips |
| This is a little OT but... In sonar can you grab the edge of an audio region and drag it to loop it? You can in ableton live and its great but I'm thinking of moving to sonar for other reasons and it'd be great to keep this ease of use. Why do you like Sonar? Is there anything to watch out for in it? BTW I've got rapture and I think people are gonna come round to our way of thinking pretty bloody quick!:eyes: |
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| R2Project |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
This is a little OT but... In sonar can you grab the edge of an audio region and drag it to loop it? |
Yes you can, they are called Groove loops in the Cakewalk world. In Sonar you select and Audio clip, press CTRL-L and it's now a groove loop. You can then drag it out to loop. Once it's a groove loop if you copy and paste it else where, it's still a loop.
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Why do you like Sonar? Is there anything to watch out for in it? |
When I was deciding on a Sequencer about 4 years ago I tried out Sonar, Cubase and Logic (on a PC). Sonart just clicked for me, it's interface just seemed natural. I always found Cubase confusing, and Logic, well glad I didn't go there or else I'd have ended up going to mac by now.
Of course there are a few gotcha's when using Sonar, but mostly it's just a case of geting used to the way Cakewalk do things. Their Midi Groove loops can be fiddly at times, getting the length of the loop right (the solution is to use the properties dialog box of the clip if your having trouble). I think that Sidechaining isn't well implemented, but if you use something like "Sidekick" you can get it going. There is probably a few others, but I've yet to find anything I can't do in Sonar that I wanted to.
Andy |
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| kitphillips |
| Great! looks like I found a sequencer that won't get in the way finally! Thanks for the info :) |
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| R2Project |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Great! looks like I found a sequencer that won't get in the way finally! Thanks for the info :) |
Why don't you download the demo version from cakewalk.com and check it out as well.
Andy |
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| kitphillips |
| Probably a good idea before I fork out 500 bucks hey?:) |
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