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| substorm |
Hey again guys!
I have just "run in the mud" in my latest production. :( I have been sitting and analyzing this typical old trance sound used in many tracks before.
So, im not an pro in synth programing, but i often end up with the sound i want, it just takes a little more time than you guys who know what knobs to turn!
Anyway, i have been sitting herr for about 5 hours now, trying to recreate this sound, but just dont get it right!!!! and now just on the edge to give up. But i thought i would give it one last try if there is someone here who knows how to do it!:confused:
The sound im searching for is a verry typical and non original. Its that old pluck sound used in meny old PVD, Above and Beyond tracks. It sound so simple but i cant get it right! I have used my v-station for this, and my pro-53 and vanguard!
I dont have a sample, i just hope that someone knows what sound i talking about!?
Please help me!! before i turn mad:stongue:
Cheers
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| LENG |
| hm... it would be very hard for us to help ya get the sound without a sample clip... |
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| substorm |
Hmm, yea... But if i say, something close to "PVD - For an Angel" classic pluck lead?! :)
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| Lindo |
If you're talking about those old PVD - For an Angel and old AvB tracks, someone said awhile back that the trick is recursive modulation. I've only made 2 or so patches for pluck sounds and they're okay, but I know the general idea.
V-Station: This is what I did for v-station. I loaded 3 different waveforms (square, triangle, saw). Now the triangle sound is going to give it that soft, pure sound you want for the attack/pluck part of the sound. The square is going to give it a pure sound along with the saw. If you want, try to create a pwm waveform using the LFOs. I don't know much about pwm, but I know it gives a nice lush sound to pads so why not try it here. I don't know too much about the level settings or how much to detune each knob and stuff (hey it's a patch in the making right now).
I think the secret to this patch though is in the mod env. Work with a short attack, short decay, moderate sustain and fairly long release. These settings ensure that the filter opens with a "wah" pluck and it closes fairly slowly after it decays down. I think keytrack should be very low (test with this), mod env all the way to the right and your filter freq down pretty low.
For the amp env, try 0-5 attack, 55-65 decay, sustain low, release medium.
Extra: Turn unison detune on around 75. Whatever sounds good to you. VCO drift all the way. Uni voices to 8.
That should be enough to mess around with for the day. Tell me if you get anywhere cool.
Use a quality chorus effect along with an interesting delay line and you're set.
Edit: I'll attempt with another synth if you'd like it's just that V-Station and I are best friends lol. |
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