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| Lira |
There's a short version for the CORe massive at the end of this post.
1. Why the hell is Lira talking about AI?
I'm working for the final project for my graduation course. It is, essentially, a dictionary of words and grammar of Japanese language for Brazilian Portuguese speakers (I might translate it all into English, if there's demand and time). However, I wanted it to do more than a paper dictionary can.
I've got about 2 years, so there's plenty of time to do that. Basically, what I'm going to use is:
- Lots of free time, which I'm sure using for study and programming.
- XHTML & CSS
- PHP & MySQL (I've developed a few databases, and I managed to do quite well with all the information involved)
- Perhaps, if ever, some JavaScript
- Some stuff I've got ahold of lately, related to Philosophy of Language, Philosophy of Mind, Learning Methods, Information Architecture and, of course, AI.
2. So, what's the question here?
There are a few things I'm planning to use in the dictionary:
- A PageRank sort of organisation system.
- An Orkut-like sort of social community, aimed for students of Japanese.
- An Amazon-like sort of recommendation and suggestions system.
Now, here comes the questions I'd like to ask you guys:
- Can the organisation behind Amazon and PageRank be considered some sort of rudimentary weak AI?
- What kind of problems should I expect to find?
- Is it too pretentious to consider some work with PHP as being Weak AI? Mind you it's not for a computer course, so it doesn't need to be bleeding-edge technology or anything.
Sure, it sounds like something bigger than it actually will be, but keep in mind that the dictionary will not cover more than 2 thousand words (at the initial stage, as it should assist students taking the Japanese Language Proficiency test), and Japanese grammar is not rocket science.
I'd like to hear the opinion of those of you who work on the field :)
Short version:
a) The intraweb is a series of tubes, not a big truck.
b) Neurones, too, are a series of tubes.
a + b) Tubular! |
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| Zenchowdah |
thunder bolt of lightning, very very frightening me!
galileo |
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| Subey |
Sounds like a semantics issue.
What do you mean by AI?
A computer program can evaluate data and make decisions based on that evaluation. If I load up Starcraft then the units have AI, and a computer opponent has AI. But all these cases seem much more akin to a windmill turning in the data than 'thinking' |
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| jdat |
They do not operate under any form of Artificial Intelligence; just some complex algorithms. It's really just that "simple".
I'll post at length tomorrow. |
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| Ang ' ela_ie |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdat
They do not operate under any form of Artificial Intelligence; just some complex algorithms. It's really just that "simple".
I'll post at length tomorrow. |
He's right, theres nothing autonomous about this technology. The creators of Amazon didnt "train" it to determine what someone would like to see, it just associates two products with each other (which was programmed by an individual) and throws it on the screen. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
Sounds like a semantics issue.
What do you mean by AI? |
Here are a few solid examples of what I'm planning:
- In the social community, people will be joining, but there's a risk of having spammers and fake profiles.
- The system would recognise patterns, and prevent the obvious spam from getting it.
- People will use the dictionary in order to look up words
- The system will learn what words they look for, what the most popular words are, and, with some work on synonymous and antonymous (sp? I'm in a bit of a hurry), it would be able to suggest words, even the ones I did not program myself to be suggested (but that make sense in the context).
If this is not AI, what name should I give to this? |
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| Subey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If this is not AI, what name should I give to this? |
I might say "i'm going to program some AI that will..." but I think for most people the connotations of the word lean towards something with significantly greater decision making powers.
I think its safer to just say "i'm going to have a program that will..."
So i'd just substitute 'ai' with 'program' and most people will be on the same page as you. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| i think you should also do some research on data mining, statistical analysis, and numerical algorithms that involves some popular functions from calculus. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
I might say "i'm going to program some AI that will..." but I think for most people the connotations of the word lean towards something with significantly greater decision making powers.
I think its safer to just say "i'm going to have a program that will..."
So i'd just substitute 'ai' with 'program' and most people will be on the same page as you. |
Maybe the thing that might sound confusing here is the fact that I'm talking about "Weak AI" i.e. it's going to perform just a few tasks based on a few algorithms, a process which I understand as being analogous to the process of thinking but, even in that sense, it's not going to be pathetic compared to most robots out there. |
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| Lira |
First post edited for better clarification :)
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
i think you should also do some research on data mining, statistical analysis, and numerical algorithms that involves some popular functions from calculus. |
I will - thanks :) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| I'd like to find some real intelligence from the internet first, then we can talk about artificial intelligence. |
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