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Enjoi New Party Pills <-- *E Substitute?*
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| bidor |
http://www.enjoiproducts.com/home.php
anyone ever tried these? ive been searching 2 1/2 half weeks for these pills.. finally got them today, will try them out either today or tomorrow:D the ones i got are called "Efx Party Pills" .... substitute for E? i dont know.... |
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| bidor |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azia
nice alternative |
yeah! and its legal to! well here it is...... |
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| Temperate |
| why are there 3 different pills when they all contain BZP? |
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| lücid |
| quote: | Originally posted by bidor
substitute for E? i dont know.... |
erowid.org is your friend :)
as explained in one trip report...
| quote: | I first decided to try the piperazines because I am very fond of MDMA, and I badly wanted to find a legal alternative. Piperazines seemed to offer hope of this. Unfortunately, there were at least as many negatives as there were positives. Much of what comes across in this report as glowing enthusiasm for the piperazines is in fact largely an attempt to convince myself that I was having a good time - remember, I was writing as I was experiencing. There were quite a few negatives which I tried to play down. To a large extent, I was successful in mentally suppressing my awareness of these negatives, at least during this first trip. This doesn't mean they weren't there, however.
During the trip itself, the side effects weren't too extreme. There was a mild headache which would come and go, getting worse towards the end of the trip. During the initial phases of the experience, breathing felt really sensual... over a few hours however, this gradually changed over to a somewhat disturbing sensation that my lungs were filled with some kind of liquid. During my second piperazine experience, this effect was very pronounced, scaring the hell out of me. I suspect that these drugs produce a dramatic increase in mucus production in the lungs. GHB was able to mask much of the nastier side effects, at least this time.
The worst part of the experience came after the trip itself had ended. Waking up the next day, I felt drained, similar to after taking a high dose of something like LSD. This was accompanied by a persistent headache. Rather than getting better after a few hours, it got worse. In the end, the hangover lasted about 2 days, and felt similar to having a bad flu - lots of headaches and muscle aches, lack of energy, mental impairment, and a general poisoned feeling. I tried to convince myself it wasn't that bad because I so badly wanted a legal alternative to MDMA... but really, it was horrible. Nothing I've ever taken has come close to giving me the sort of hangover piperazines are capable of producing.
My second piperazine experience was much worse, leaving me convinced for several hours that I was about to die. Physical side effects were extreme and frightening, and the hangover from that experience lasted several days.
These drugs do not offer anything close to an acceptable MDMA substitute. While the initial part of trip may have many parallels to taking ecstasy, I have very serious concerns about the safety of these chemicals. I suspect they have a very high potential for toxicity. The physical side effects can be very uncomfortable, especially towards the end of the trip, and the 2 or more day hangover is pure hell. I have recently (early 2001) seen reports of piperazine pills being passed off as ecstasy. This disturbs me greatly. I strongly encourage ecstasy users to make sure they test any pills they buy before taking them, and do not take any pills which may be piperazines. You really do not want to experience this hangover! |
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2393
more here: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/s...nes_-_BZP.shtml |
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| CranberryJuice |
prolly crap
bought pills like that when i was like 15 on a dutch online website ....it was actually ephedrine pills but they had a name like it would allow u to have fun a whole nite dancing .....
great way to waste money if u ask me |
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| CONNERMAN2000 |
In all honesty, most "legal alternative" stuff is just bull.
I did this stuff called Snurf, and even though it WAS ridiculously intense and quite fun, it was nothing like xtc, which was what it was supposed to imitate.
Write up on what its like bidor if you end up doin it. |
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| bidor |
| quote: | Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Write up on what its like bidor if you end up doin it. |
yeah ill definatly will write my own experience here :) |
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| djy2g33 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I did this stuff called Snurf |
Maybe its just me but "Snurf"?? :haha: :haha: That sounds REALLY trustworthy! |
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| verndogs |
| i prefer the better party drug that's commonly referred to as the "Placebo" |
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| KilldaDJ |
| its probably cheaper to go for the real E or something, at least that way u avoid that so called 2 day hangover |
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