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Subconcious musical memory and comprehension
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| Akridrot |
This CRAZY idea just occured to me..
Ever made a song and then realized later that it was actually a recreation of another one? I'm sure we all have. And I'm sure there have been topics about that phenomenon (in general).
But then I thought of something else.. I'm sure you've heard cars passing with bass so loud that they set off car alarms and physically shake your room (slightly).
What's crazy is, sometimes I can actually decipher the song from the low, low inaudible bassline. Psychoacoustics? I can tell a song by a muddy, purely physical bassline at times.
So these cars may pass at night, and I'm sure they have. So I was thinking:
What if basslines you felt or music you heard while sleeping manifested themselves in your music?
I belive this has happened to me. Think about it, your mind can grab random things that you aren't even aware of and bring them out later.
I might not even get the song because the car moved away to fast, or I just didn't pick up the vibrations. But it's possible that my mind heard the sub bass and remembered it only to bring it out later. Leading to one of those moments of "Man, this song sounds familiar.. but I don't I've heard anything like this!"
edit: Basically, you feel the bassline (and just that) in your sleep. The mind stores it, and later you remember the bassline and your mind *now* works on deciphering what song it came from, and gives you the melody of the song without telling you where it came from.
Subconcious musical thought. Discuss. |
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| david.michael |
You may be looking too much into it....
But yeah, I can do that too. :) I'll hear a sub-bass going and can tell what song it came from. (Side note: it's funny if you ever turn on your radio, and someone is banging their radio as loud as possible listening to the same station as you... makes it sound like your car has more stereo than it does... ;) ).
A fascinating situation that happened to me once was composing within a dream. It was the strangest thing. It was like I was making a mental movie. I had no prior knowledge of anything that happened during it, but it all played smoothly in my head... almost like a music video, or just a dramatic part of a film. I have trouble recalling it now, but I remember there being women in grain fields singing a particular melody. And somehow, my brain constructed this GORGEOUS soundtrack, complete with strings, vocals, etc. I can barely remember just a second or two of the melody now, but when I first awakened, I knew that I absolutely had to start recreating what I heard or I would lose it, but I didn't get the chance. I hate that I didn't do it now. |
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| Akridrot |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
A fascinating situation that happened to me once was composing within a dream. It was the strangest thing. It was like I was making a mental movie. I had no prior knowledge of anything that happened during it, but it all played smoothly in my head... almost like a music video, or just a dramatic part of a film. I have trouble recalling it now, but I remember there being women in grain fields singing a particular melody. And somehow, my brain constructed this GORGEOUS soundtrack, complete with strings, vocals, etc. I can barely remember just a second or two of the melody now, but when I first awakened, I knew that I absolutely had to start recreating what I heard or I would lose it, but I didn't get the chance. I hate that I didn't do it now. |
Oh man, you have no idea how much I hate it when beautiful music gets in my dreams. I just wish there was a dream recorder so I wouldn't feel so sad about losing all these strange and wonderful ideas that only come in my sleep.
I think that's happened to all of us. It is terribly unfair how dream music can never be remembered. |
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| Aquarian |
What you're describing is possible but extremely unlikely.
Alot of music uses very common chord progressions and rhythms. It isn't all that unusual to recreate a bassline very similar to something you may have heard before. It doesn't have anything to do with remembering a track and subconsciousely recreating it, it's just coincidence. As a matter of fact, this sort of memory is typically very innacurate. However, once you have a small set of notes that's already similar to something you've heard before, then it might be possible that you're automatically filling the rest according to what you remember. You hear the first couple of notes of your melody, and then your mind refers to your memory to complete it. |
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| NO! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Akridrot
Oh man, you have no idea how much I hate it when beautiful music gets in my dreams. I just wish there was a dream recorder so I wouldn't feel so sad about losing all these strange and wonderful ideas that only come in my sleep.
I think that's happened to all of us. It is terribly unfair how dream music can never be remembered. |
Tell me about it. My best ideas come from my dreams. I don't have time to put it down when I wake up because you gotta go to school/work! |
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| david.michael |
| The dream music thing happened again last night. This topic must have still been on my mind. My little brother somehow got a gig playing live in front of a huge crowd and he was nervous, and he looked at me and mouthed the word "help!" as if he wanted me to add something to his song so that it would go over well. So I started improvising melodies over his track on the piano since it was a chord progression that was familiar to me. It was a rockin' success. Too bad I don't remember the melodies. Sigh. |
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