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Layering basslines
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| Adam Scott |
| I've been struggling lately with layering my basslines. Is it pretty common when layering basslines to have just a sub with a mid bassline? Do any of you use more than two or simply use one bassline with no layering at all? When layering is the idea to have both basslines play the same rythm (creating more range for seemingly one sound) or do they play different rythms (creating a possible arpeggiated sound)? I understand how to create a bassline other than the off kick bass my question is how more than one are generally layered together. |
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| Aquarian |
| Whatever sounds good to you. There's no golden rule and every track is different. Personally I like to have a sub-bass hitting off-notes old school style and then have a mid-bass with much more definition playing a more complex rhythm of short stabs along the main key. |
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| mysticalninja |
It depends on what kind of bass your trying to make, for the rolling bass this is a good technique, if you just want a fatty offbeat you don't need to layer. You don't even need more than 1 osc.
If you want to layer though you can have them doing the same pattern, or another common thing to do is have a sub bass doing the offbeat bass, and then have another bass in 16th's. |
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| substorm |
I dont know how many times this bass thing has been on topic now!:o
Sorry, but i would like to help out, but there are a number of threads about this stuff that i think you should read first before posting!
Try the search button, you will be amaized of what you can find!
Cheers
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by substorm
I dont know how many times this bass thing has been on topic now!:o
Sorry, but i would like to help out, but there are a number of threads about this stuff that i think you should read first before posting!
Try the search button, you will be amaized of what you can find!
Cheers
C |
:haha: true |
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| dj_kane |
thats substorms! did he allow this ? :whip: |
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| Adam Scott |
Thanks for the input. I might not have been clear enough. I have read through the bassline tutorials as well as used search. I have read what you posted on the topic before substorm, however my question is not so much how to eq or what freq to use for each line. My question is more on how the rythms of the separate basslines work together.
For rythmic or arpeggiated basslines , do all three play the same notes or do they play different notes to create the arp.
EX.
All three play this?
XxxXxxXxxXxx
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each play separate parts?
X..X..X..X..
.xx.xx.xx.xx
Again, does it just come down to what works or does one method tend to work a bit better? |
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| wayfinder |
There's no recipe (true cliché #1).
I like to use a fairly wide freq bass and process its lows, mids and treble separately (ducking, chorus, panning, compression, gating etc). That method gives me a rather sharply defined single bass that still works on more than one level.
At other times though, I just go with the flow. I might start with something intended as a main bass (like described above) and suddenly realize that it's never going to work in the lows with the pattern I'm using, so I'll cut those lows and use a deep fretless to play a much simpler (ooXoooXoooXoooXo or oooXooXooooXooXo or some other standard) bass line to supplement the original without taking away from the rhythm of the mids and and treble.
What it comes down to in the end is, what sounds good (true cliché #2). This is different from song to song, and it's a bit of a struggle every time, but damn, it's worth it :)
Good luck! |
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| clubkidnycnyc |
yes all 3 layers play at once
on 3rds one sixteenths
while your main riff or sub meloody is playing |
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| Biatchzxz |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
thats substorms! did he allow this ? :whip: |
i didnt take credit for it. Its on his website |
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| DJREMIDI |
| So when "Substorm" says, "Layer one around 40-80Hz", "Layer two around 125Hz", what does he actually mean by those frequencies? A bass sound will usually contain a broad spectrum of frequencies, including mids and highs. So does he say to cut everything above 80Hz for layer one and everything above 125Hz for layer two? Or am I misinterpreting this information? |
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