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| TranceArmstrong |
| thanks for the feedback everyone. Yeah I didn't think the MacBook Pro was necessary. I will be getting a new macbook. They look nice as hell and I can't wait. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Can't imagine ANYONE needing the 16 gigs of RAM, but hey, it's there ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by Vero
my point exactly, that thing is the ultimate hotness. |
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| JonnyBigBalls |
| my "beast" pc cost me 800 new for the parts, thats a hell of alot cheaper than a mac, plus why wud u need 16gb of ram to run reason or cubase ? LOL |
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| J:\Digital |
| quote: | Originally posted by JonnyBigBalls
my "beast" pc cost me 800 new for the parts, thats a hell of alot cheaper than a mac, plus why wud u need 16gb of ram to run reason or cubase ? LOL |
Seeing how you are in England, that is prolly 800 quid, which works out to roughly 1700CAD dollars.....which costs more than my macbook did..
But hey, have fun with something that the thread starter didn't even ask about... :stongue: |
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| Devil Bunny |
Nah, my PC is right around 800, and its just as good as any mac. Its an AMD 3800+ Dual core overclocked from 2.00ghz to 2.50ghz 2 gigs of DDR 500 (PC-4000) 7900 GT, 720gigs hd space 550 watt antec TruePower 2.0 psu. and the beast is just as quite as a kitten purring. And totaly on air cooling. Runs everything fine, I have rune Ableton live, FL Studio 6, IM, Azeures, Winamp, updating my library on my gigabeat mp3 player. All at once without a single system hiccup.
Dont even start talking about the quad core Xeon setups, if youre going to use a server chip in a workstation AMD ftw. The fact that the cores talk strait to eachother without having to go through the fsb, intergrated memory controllers, and greater scalibility means there is no competition when it comes to server side/multi core setups. |
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| DannyO |
Well I'm not gonna get into a heated retard battle over Mac VS PC bull, to each his own, Hardware wise, I think Apple is priced pretty well compared to other companies offering the same config and are using good parts, I have seen many computers, mainly Dell out there that have a great CPU for advertising, but you look inside and the motherboard and ram and other components are cheap, infact you compare some of Apples products to say..Dell for the EXACT same config Apple is now cheaper (but I still don't know full details on all the components to see if its for a specific reason), the main benefit you have with PCs, is you can custom build them and buy parts straight from a warehouse reducing the cost, so you can build a good spec computer for not too much, but remember, when you say the price of your machine, you have to include the price of the operating system, unless you are running a free distro of Linux.
Anyway, that aside, regardless of what PC setup you have and how much of a beast it is, for many people that wouldn't matter as it comes down to the function, stability and ease of the operating system, now this is an "each to there own" topic as well, but I just think OSX is lightyears ahead of most of Windows, even Vista (finally fixed some big problems though, thank god), and so any PC to me will not be as good, this isn't a bash to anyone this is just how I see it, yes you can get hacked versions of OSX to run on PCs, but I'd rather not around with the internals of a operating system and decrease its stability, but to each there own, some people have had no problems with windows, great, I hope that stays that way.
EDIT: oh yea I just mentioned the Mac Pro for the hell of it, no one would get a system of that spec to run some small program like Ableton on it, when you get a maxed out system like that with a huge amount of ram (like 16gbs) it would most likely be for use with Professional Video Editing and similar operations that would eat up that ram in no time. |
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| JonnyBigBalls |
| I used to work for Dell, and yes the parts are cheap, they are oem and come directly from the manufacture, thats why u buy quality parts and build the machine yourself. Its just as cheap. |
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| MikeyN |
| i myself got a 1.83ghz model on monday and so far i love it, i upgraded to the 1 gig of ram and it works beautifully...havent loaded ableton yet, but plan on doing so by the end of the week. i dont think i'll be installing windows though, i still might load parallels to do it though, but i already have virtue desktop loaded and kicks ass... |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by DannyO
Well I'm not gonna get into a heated retard battle over Mac VS PC bull, to each his own, Hardware wise, I think Apple is priced pretty well compared to other companies offering the same config and are using good parts, I have seen many computers, mainly Dell out there that have a great CPU for advertising, but you look inside and the motherboard and ram and other components are cheap, infact you compare some of Apples products to say..Dell for the EXACT same config Apple is now cheaper (but I still don't know full details on all the components to see if its for a specific reason), the main benefit you have with PCs, is you can custom build them and buy parts straight from a warehouse reducing the cost, so you can build a good spec computer for not too much, but remember, when you say the price of your machine, you have to include the price of the operating system, unless you are running a free distro of Linux.
Anyway, that aside, regardless of what PC setup you have and how much of a beast it is, for many people that wouldn't matter as it comes down to the function, stability and ease of the operating system, now this is an "each to there own" topic as well, but I just think OSX is lightyears ahead of most of Windows, even Vista (finally fixed some big problems though, thank god), and so any PC to me will not be as good, this isn't a bash to anyone this is just how I see it, yes you can get hacked versions of OSX to run on PCs, but I'd rather not around with the internals of a operating system and decrease its stability, but to each there own, some people have had no problems with windows, great, I hope that stays that way.
EDIT: oh yea I just mentioned the Mac Pro for the hell of it, no one would get a system of that spec to run some small program like Ableton on it, when you get a maxed out system like that with a huge amount of ram (like 16gbs) it would most likely be for use with Professional Video Editing and similar operations that would eat up that ram in no time. |
But a 15" macbook pro is over $2000 a dell with the same hardware is $1100. You'd need to go down to the smaller size regular macbook to be in the same price range and even then the dell would probably come stock with more RAM.
And I've had ZERO stability problems with the hacked version of OSX 10.4 or the version of Logic Express 7.2 I'm using. Just waiting for my firewire interface so I can get serious about production on my hackbook. Of course I have ZERO problems with Windows too. I guess it comes down to user competence.
In the end computers are tools. If you can't use a tool properly it isn't the tool's fault. It's attributed to user error. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Just make sure you get the universal binary of ableton... I'm sure you already know that, but just in case. Running any of those apps under rosetta really sucks.
Parallels looks pretty decent. I ended up using boot camp though (need to use Windows to use the VPN client to get into my office). All of the hardware (including the camera) is now supported under windows, which you don't really get with parallels.
| quote: | Originally posted by MikeyN
i myself got a 1.83ghz model on monday and so far i love it, i upgraded to the 1 gig of ram and it works beautifully...havent loaded ableton yet, but plan on doing so by the end of the week. i dont think i'll be installing windows though, i still might load parallels to do it though, but i already have virtue desktop loaded and kicks ass... |
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| Ryan0751 |
Well to get it to the same specs of the Macbook costs a bit more than your quoted price.
But you still end up with a Dell laptop, that's big, heavy, and sucks up battery like no tomorrow. It's also ugly.
Certainly you are right though, computers are tools, if you can make it work and are happy with your experience, then great. I'm not happy with PC laptops, so I buy Mac laptops. Simple.
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
But a 15" macbook pro is over $2000 a dell with the same hardware is $1100. You'd need to go down to the smaller size regular macbook to be in the same price range and even then the dell would probably come stock with more RAM.
And I've had ZERO stability problems with the hacked version of OSX 10.4 or the version of Logic Express 7.2 I'm using. Just waiting for my firewire interface so I can get serious about production on my hackbook. Of course I have ZERO problems with Windows too. I guess it comes down to user competence.
In the end computers are tools. If you can't use a tool properly it isn't the tool's fault. It's attributed to user error. |
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| Zild |
No I bought one with exact mac specs for just under $1100. True the mobo is different but everything else is exactly the same. I made it a point to compare equally specced laptops.
I'm not going to pay almost $1000 for something slightly smaller and slightly less heavy that looks slightly better. |
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