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Democrats will NOT regain Congress - and they fully deserve to LOSE
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| MisterOpus1 |
I've watched out of the corner of my eye how most of the Democrats have behaved over the past few months on a number of issues. Then I watched a bit more closely as I took the Dems. out of my periphery and squared them right in front of me.
That was tough to do, because it's hard to take something that's not in your peripheral vision and square it right in front of you.
Where the have the Democrats been on any ing REAL discerning issue today? Have you heard any voice being called out on torture? How about NSA and illegal spying? Iraq? These are issues that should really be the focal point of the Dems., yet their wonderful Beltway Boys political consultants have told them to focus on another far more pressing issue, one that has truly won oh so many of their elections for the past few cycles (disclaimer, I'm not a terribly big fan of Huffington post, but this is too revealing to pass up):
| quote: | Democrats have decided that the way to win in November is -- I kid you not -- to make the economy the central issue of the campaign.
"We've got to go on the offensive," explained a senior Democratic aide, "and keep our eye on the ball -- and that's the economy."
"We're not going to win 15 seats on the war in Iraq," said another Democratic staffer, insisting it is the economy that will, in the words of Roll Call, "bring the party across the goal line."
Sen. Debbie Stabenow is quoted as saying the 2006 election "is all about jobs."
And, in a memo sent to Democratic staffers, the party's Senate leadership claimed "while Iraq may be high among the concerns of the American people, it is a distant reality in comparison to the day to day challenges many families face filing their gas tanks, paying for college, saving for retirement and securing a job."
A distant reality? Oh. My. God.
...The 2006 election -- and with it control of the House and the power to investigate the Bush administration's abundant outrages -- is there for the taking... if only Democrats would put down the economy crack pipe and put their energy into hammering Bush and the GOP for their many tragic foreign policy and national security failures, which have combined to make America far less safe.
The numbers couldn't be any clearer. Seventy-seven percent of voters think that it's time to give new people a shot at running Congress. But while Democrats continue to hold a lead when voters are asked which party they plan to support in November, Republicans are making significant gains in convincing voters they are better able to handle national security and the war on terrorism. According to a new LA Times/Bloomberg poll, voters give the GOP a whopping 17 point advantage on the "who'll keep us safe?" question (nearly double the number who felt that way in June). At the same time, 56 percent of voters don't believe that America is making progress in Iraq. (What's more, Bush's numbers on the economy have greatly improved in the last three months).
Which is why Democrats can't take their eye off the real ball -- making the case that Iraq is not, as Bush continues to claim, the centerpiece of the war on terror, and has, in fact, compromised America's ability to combat terrorists and protect our homeland.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arian...in_b_29977.html |
The ing moron Dems. are going to continue to lose. Listening contently to these consultants whos vetted interests lie only in themselves and the corporate interests they represent have and will continue to cause harm to the party, yet the ing idiot Dems. are too unwilling to cut the ties.
The torture issue is a classic example. I did not hear ONE ING democrat say a god damned thing about this issue. Oh sure, there may have realistically been a couple here and there, but the overall voice was mum.
Wanna take a guess as to who told them to shy away from the issue?
So they sat back and thought it was great to see the GOP fight amongst themselves, thinking that somehow was to their advantage. All the while this was occurring I was thinking to myself, gee, when has this current GOP party EVER had a dissenting voice on anything? When the heads are counted and the dust settles, how often do any Republicans break from ranks on these biggest and most pressing issues?
Uhh, none.
It's what's kept them in power. It's why they are where they are. Although it's frustrating as hell, it's also extremely admirable. And it took decades to build. It didn't take a ing genious to see that in the same manner that Specter caved in on the NSA spying deal with this Administration, these "independent" Repubs. will eventually fall in line. And it didn't take a ing tin foil hat to see this was likely the plan from the outset. It worked brilliantly.
Now the Dems. are left holding their dicks as THEY now become the dissenters. Good luck on getting them to hold their voice in unison. With the exception of Social Security, that has NEVER occurred on any issue over the past 5 years. McCain took Reid for a ride. McCain used Reid like a red-headed bitch step-child. How bad was the cave in?:
| quote: | Under the compromise agreed to yesterday, Congress would recognize his authority to take these steps and prevent prisoners from appealing them to U.S. courts. The bill would also immunize CIA personnel from prosecution for all but the most serious abuses and protect those who in the past violated U.S. law against war crimes.
In short, it's hard to credit the statement by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) yesterday that "there's no doubt that the integrity and letter and spirit of the Geneva Conventions have been preserved." In effect, the agreement means that U.S. violations of international human rights law can continue as long as Mr. Bush is president, with Congress's tacit assent. If they do, America's standing in the world will continue to suffer, as will the fight against terrorism.
But the senators who have fought to rein in the administration's excesses -- led by Sens. McCain, Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and John W. Warner (R-Va.) -- failed to break Mr. Bush's commitment to "alternative" methods that virtually every senior officer of the U.S. military regards as unreliable, counterproductive and dangerous for Americans who may be captured by hostile governments.
Mr. Bush wanted Congress to formally approve these practices and to declare them consistent with the Geneva Conventions. It will not. But it will not stop him either, if the legislation is passed in the form agreed on yesterday. Mr. Bush will go down in history for his embrace of torture and bear responsibility for the enormous damage that has caused.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6092101647.html |
Call McCain whatever you want. The fact of the matter is he is truly one simple thing: a modern day Republican - 100% loyal to his party who puts his party above any and everything else including his country.
It's exactly what happened to the Democratic party in the 70's and 80's, and history continues to repeat itself. The trouble is, the opposing party, the Democrats, are so ing idiotic while they continually listen to their dip consultants that they cannot take back Congress in the same manner that Republicans did from the corruption in the Democratic Congress of the 80's.
The Dems. don't get it. They ing never will. The public is screaming for them to step up to the plate, screaming for them to take on these issues, yet they continue to cower. The Dems. by and large have the public on their side for the majority of these issues including torture, including Iraq, including illegal spying, but they run away and pretend these issues are unimportant.
If they did not get the picture from 04, from '02, from '00, they never will. They deserve to get their balls kicked in, simply because they have none. All the while our country continues to go right off the cliff. Congratulations, dips. |
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| Shakka |
I call bull on you--though I didn't even read past paragraph 1 yet (cuz I'm still at work and you are so long-winded).
In any event, you know that deep down, in places they don't like to talk about at cocktail parties, Dems want to be on the other sides of those issues. They NEED to be on the other side! Muahahahahaa!
Seriously though--ISI Research pegs the odds of a Democratic sweep in November at 60/40 and they have a pretty good track record at predicting outcomes. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I call bull on you--though I didn't even read past paragraph 1 yet (cuz I'm still at work and you are so long-winded).
In any event, you know that deep down, in places they don't like to talk about at cocktail parties, Dems want to be on the other sides of those issues. They NEED to be on the other side! Muahahahahaa!
Seriously though--ISI Research pegs the odds of a Democratic sweep in November at 60/40 and they have a pretty good track record at predicting outcomes. |
Yeah, I know what the research analysts are saying, and I dont buy it one bit. I am honestly not attempting to pull a reverse-psychology scheme on you here - I think the Dems. wont do it, period. What the Dems. are doing now and have been doing for the past coupla months are merely confirming my fears. They believe that laying down rather than attacking the issues will somehow take care of their elections.
Rove and the GOP strategists have easily proven that wrong time and again.
Going on the offensive on the issues that seemingly are the opposing partys strong points have proven very effective, PROVIDED that your message is clear, simple, and collectively the same. The GOP has done this very effectively lately, and I really dont believe the Dems have it in them to pull it off. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I call bull on you--though I didn't even read past paragraph 1 yet (cuz I'm still at work and you are so long-winded).
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Ironic since earlier you were complaining about people posting articles with no opinions attached to them... I'm getting the feeling you just don't like to read. :D
As for the original post... yes.
Obviously both parties in our current government are not for the people whatsoever.
Personally, I plan to vote independent from now on, for the same reasons you've stated... both of these parties are terrible in so many ways, it's time we give another party a chance to be equally terrible in new and exciting ways.
It will never happen for a few reasons, unfortunately...
First, we are complacent.
Second, the government will not allow it.
During the early 20th century there was a communist party running, which took 5% or so of the popular vote (this was before communism became a boogie-man word, just at the end of the peak of experimentation in government systems all over the world).
Anyway, they threw the guy running in jail (the reasons being laughable and legal -- his opinions were not that of the other two dominant parties regarding the oncoming war), and the rest is history. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Ironic since earlier you were complaining about people posting articles with no opinions attached to them... I'm getting the feeling you just don't like to read. :D |
Lol. I should've placed emphasis on the "at work" part. Wasn't a good day for lengthy distractions. |
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| Aquadyne |
MisterOpus, you seem to consistently come across as an idiot and thus I will regard you as such.
That's all. |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquadyne
MisterOpus, you seem to consistently come across as an idiot and thus I will regard you as such.
That's all. |
seriously? misteropus is one of the smartest posters here. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquadyne
MisterOpus, you seem to consistently come across as an idiot and thus I will regard you as such. |
Hmmmm, is there any specific topic to which you disagree with me here? If so, I'd be happy to discuss those issues in detail.
I also don't seem to recall seeing your cute little face around these PDD parts too often. In fact, I really don't seem to see you around hardly at all.
So it really, truly begs the question: Who the are you?
Well gracious I certainly hope not! Perhaps you can take us all a step further and enthrall us a bit more with your keen wit and intellect. It's truly been on display so far. I pray you shall continue.
ing nutsack. |
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