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| daveth |
I'd like to bring this topic up again. Just wondering if you would consider reevaluating the search function now that vBulletin 3.6 is out Swamper?
How it is presently, I find the search very often returns no results when I know it should.. eg. I search for "JP-8080" in titles only, in the Australian forums, from posts from 6 months ago, 3 months ago, 1 month ago - no hits. However, when I select '2 weeks ago' or '1 week ago' I get a hit for "Roland", but NOT for "JP-8080" (thread im targeting is titled "[FS] Roland JP-8080", from <1 week ago in the Australian forums).
Another example: searching '+Presonus +Firebox' (using boolean search terms, as you suggested), limiting my search to posts from '3 months ago', '6 months ago' or 'a year ago' (and newer), searching in titles only, and searching in the producers forum, returns no hits, even though there is clearly a thread that should be returned, however I CAN get the thread I'm looking for, but only if I search for posts from '2 weeks ago' or '1 week ago' and newer.
Surely this is erroneous behaviour? If the thread is picked up with the '2 weeks and newer' search, shouldn't the '3 months and newer' search also find it? :conf:
This is just one example of erratic search behaviour this forum displays. Searches work fine for me on all other forums..
Swamper, I love your work mate :) but perhaps this issue deserves some attention? It makes these otherwise awesome forums really difficult to navigate sometimes :(
In response to the person who said that searches on this forum can't be compared to others due to the number of posts ("1 million+ posts"), there are plenty of forums running vBulletin who's searches work excellently and also have a huge number of posts -- vBulletins own forums for example - http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/index.php the Overclockers Australia forums have over 5 million posts, all fully searchable (and fast too) -- http://forums.overclockers.com.au/
..the HardOCP forums again have over 4 million posts, http://www.hardforum.com/, again fully searchable etc. Both these sites use the inbuilt vBulletin 3.6.4 search engine, straight out of the box. Perhaps a flood control limiter (can only search every minute or so) would be a better way to limit bandwidth/server usage?
Thanks for your time and consideration oh Swampy one :) |
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| Swamper |
Thanks for reminding me of something.
Basically, there are a couple of corrupt threads on TA and I need to take the whole site down for a few hours and re-do the indicies in order to fix it. I completely forgot about how this affects search -- if you posted a new thread 2 weeks ago and search for it - you'll find it -- if you choose '1 month ago' then once it hits the corrupt thread(s) it dies and doesn't return anything else.
I'll fix that this weekend.
Also, regarding that other site -- they limit the number of results they return to 5000 - TA returns everything. It's not too much of a performance hit to do that. |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Basically, there are a couple of corrupt threads on TA and I need to take the whole site down for a few hours and re-do the indicies in order to fix it. I completely forgot about how this affects search -- if you posted a new thread 2 weeks ago and search for it - you'll find it -- if you choose '1 month ago' then once it hits the corrupt thread(s) it dies and doesn't return anything else. |
i've noticed a problem recently.. the 'one year ago' option seems to barely return anything from less than a year ago, and in most cases gives me older stuff. this is what i got trying to search for all thread titles in MD with 'contest' in them using the 'one year ago (and newer)' option:
it dates back to june on page 2 :conf: is this at all related to the problem you described? |
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| dj_macgyver |
there's one thing i noticed about the search function a few months back (example follows below):
if you do a search on "titles only" and the thread title has been altered by a mod (or user? don't know if this makes any difference) the search seems not to find it.
example: i was once searching for this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...?threadid=84817
the thread title clearly contains the word "auto" and is dated from 2003 (and also contains posts up to july 2007 as of now) but if i do a search on the german subforum for the word "auto" in the thread title it won't return that thread (whatever time i choose, whether it's "2003 only" or any other).
i suppose that this behaviour is related to the fact that the original title of the thread once was "Was für ne Karre fahrt ihr? Schon nen Unfall gehabt?" (the first post still contains this title) since i can find it using the keyword "karre" in "2003 only".
i don't have a precise idea how the data for the ta search is stored, but i think it should be possible to fix this some way. even if not, this could still be of help to others (if i'm correct). |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_macgyver
if you do a search on "titles only" and the thread title has been altered by a mod (or user? don't know if this makes any difference) the search seems not to find it.
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The problem here is that it is assumed that posts from a certain year will rarely ever have their titles/content edited. The search database for 2003 was created in Nov 2005 -- I haven't updated it since. However, I'll see about changing it to update once a month just to weed out old titles/deleted threads/posts/etc. Never thought of that.
Thanks. |
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| daveth |
| Search is working MUCH better now mate, thanks heaps!! :) |
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| trancekid |
don't know what it is, but since nov 17th I only get search results until that date.
whatever I search for & whatever timefame I only get results until nov 17th. |
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| trancekid |
| is it only me ? |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancekid
is it only me ? |
My fault - try again in an hour.
(somehow the nightly update was suspended) |
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| Omega_M |
| when do you plan to implement TA v2.0 search engine ? :gsmile: |
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| Trance-Canada |
| seems to be getting better Swamper. |
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