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The day America died and Dictatorship was born: Habeas Corpus, R.I.P. (1215 - 2006) (pg. 4)
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| endless_summer |
Totally AGREE!
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
No they haven't. There's been an Australian man, David Hicks, imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay for nearly five years without any charges being laid against him, let alone the opportunity to defend himself against them at trial.
For me, it's a pretty simple equation: if the men they are imprisoning are clearly guilty and clearly a threat to the United States then the government should be able to demonstrate this in front of a fair and impartial court. If it is not possible to ascertain guilt, or to prove it beyond reasonable doubt, then on what just grounds can they possibly be imprisoned? If they are guilty, why is it unreasonable to expect that this guilt be demonstrated to us by those who imprison them? If this guilt cannot be demonstrated, why is it unreasonable to suggest that the government has no right to imprison them in the first place? |
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| endless_summer |
It doesn't help either that you live in Texas :nervous:
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
!!! Now I'm having trouble sudying for my test. Looks like the Fourth Reich is approaching soon, and having my ethnic make up, religious orientation, and "far left" political views don't help me one bit. :mad: :( |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Do you get ideas from anyone other than Alex Jones? He seems to pick and choose which facts he'll use and which to completely disregard in the same way that Bush does.
Another question, off-topic, is that the camera angle, or is your neck really that long? |
I get my information from many many sources. I actually read more Thom Hartmann than I watch Alex Jones stuff. I read a lot of news too, mainly wikipedia. I watch a lot of documentaries, I read many books (I own a collection), newspapers, etc.
Oh, my neck is not that long, silly. Its the camera angle. I'll be updating that photo soon, stay tuned ;-)
BTW, can someone please tell me about the lies of Alex Jones? Why is everybody so nervous about him on the forums? Afraid of truth? Yeah, I know, truth hurts. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Why is everybody so nervous about him on the forums? Afraid of truth? Yeah, I know, truth hurts. |
I think it has something to do with what I previously said
| quote: | | He seems to pick and choose which facts he'll use and which to completely disregard in the same way that Bush does. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
BTW, can someone please tell me about the lies of Alex Jones? Why is everybody so nervous about him on the forums? Afraid of truth? Yeah, I know, truth hurts. |
Imagine a man walks into your house and does a big poo on the carpet. You have two choices here: you can either sit him down and engage him in civil debate on the ethics of ting on other people's floors or you can just kick him the out of your house and tell him to find his own floor-spaces on which to defecate.
Alex Jones is what happens when someone takes a poo on a carpet 37 floors up in a building and then tries to pin the blame on someone else. We know it stinks and we know where it came from, but the people who did the poo will ultimately deny it vehemently. Clearly it was the cleaners who were the ones who did the poo on the carpet, the pooers will argue: besides, if you live on the 37th floor, you have to expect poo on your doorstep every now and then. That's part and parcel of owning a flat.
So say Alex Jones does a big poo in front of your door. What are you going to do? "Come on in, Alex. Let's discuss your need to leave big piles of poo on my doorstep"? No, I'm pretty sure you're not going to do that. Much more likely you'll wind your legs up and lodge them quite deep within his rectum. It may not be the "right" thing to do, but it feels good and no policeman is going to convict you once the circumstances of the case are revealed. If you want to on doorsteps, this is the kind of weclome you can expect to receive.
I'm ing hammered, but I'm sure I've made my point. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| ....that's a lotta poo....:nervous: |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
....that's a lotta poo....:nervous: |
Politics is all about who can do the biggest poo while simultaneously being able to blame it on someone else. If you can do a big poo and then say "we wouldn't have done such a big poo if the digestive tract had stopped us from eating so much so as to warrant quite such a big poo in the first place" then I'm sure that people wouldn't mind: people expect a certain percentage of poo in their politics , I think.
The real problems occur when you try to feed people poo as a general rule of thumb. If people eat poo, their output will be poo. I mean, the output of the people may inevitably be poo anyway, but at least you might be able to fertilise some crops with it. When people are eating poo and ting poo during the course of political debates, one can't help but wonder what the point of the debate is to begin with? |
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| Shakka |
| I thought it was "pooh" or "poop?":conf: |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Imagine a man walks into your house and does a big poo on the carpet. You have two choices here: you can either sit him down and engage him in civil debate on the ethics of ting on other people's floors or you can just kick him the out of your house and tell him to find his own floor-spaces on which to defecate.
Alex Jones is what happens when someone takes a poo on a carpet 37 floors up in a building and then tries to pin the blame on someone else. We know it stinks and we know where it came from, but the people who did the poo will ultimately deny it vehemently. Clearly it was the cleaners who were the ones who did the poo on the carpet, the pooers will argue: besides, if you live on the 37th floor, you have to expect poo on your doorstep every now and then. That's part and parcel of owning a flat.
So say Alex Jones does a big poo in front of your door. What are you going to do? "Come on in, Alex. Let's discuss your need to leave big piles of poo on my doorstep"? No, I'm pretty sure you're not going to do that. Much more likely you'll wind your legs up and lodge them quite deep within his rectum. It may not be the "right" thing to do, but it feels good and no policeman is going to convict you once the circumstances of the case are revealed. If you want to on doorsteps, this is the kind of weclome you can expect to receive.
I'm ing hammered, but I'm sure I've made my point. |
I am sorry, but this is a really lame analogy. Seems like instead of picking on his "lies" and "stereotypes", you come up with some irrelevant joke. Alex Jones doesnt on my porch, he simply shows the bigger picture of any event, by it Waco, Texas or Patriot Act details, and people like you think that he s on your property by telling the truth ... I guess what you mean is that you are offended when Alex Jones blinds you with the truth that you refuse to acknowledge, so you feel like he's taking your dignity and freedom (which the government took, actually), and you feel that he is making fun of you and your lifestyle because you dont care about it. You like the way you live and you dont like how Alex Jones is trying to change the system.
Something along those lines. Status quo, eh? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I thought it was "pooh" or "poop?":conf: |
he's from Australia. i think it's "poo" down there.
"pooh" is a bear in a children's story. and "poop" is just a palendrome. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Now that I think about it, considering how decadent, willfully ignorant, and disgustingly apathetic and irresponsible we've collectively become, we (as a group) aren't really in any position to complain and in most likelyhood deserve what's coming to us (a dictorship/police state). |
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