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the unmixable song...?
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| carreux |
this may be a newb question but -
i cannot for the life of me beat-match the track "i need you" by JTB no matter how close the BPM of the other track. no matter what pitch i play it at the slightest incremental move of the pitch control sends it train-wrecking to either side.
does anyone else have this track and experience the same problem? is it maybe a problem with the record itself?
i'm a relative newb but i never have this trouble with any other track and can usually get a pretty tight match between any 2 beats so i don't think it's the turntables that are the problem.
my setup is 3rd-hand technics 1200s and behringer something-or-other mixer.
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| DannyO |
Is this a whitelabel? how does the record look?, any warping?
I have encountered a couple records that have been pressed badly and will fluctuate in pitch quite abit. |
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| carreux |
| quote: | Originally posted by DannyO
Is this a whitelabel? how does the record look?, any warping?
I have encountered a couple records that have been pressed badly and will fluctuate in pitch quite abit. |
it's an original from liquid pulse, bought from a reputable aussie shop. it doesn't spin quite flat but not drastically.
i don't notice the pitch speeding/slowing, it just seems to have a weird timing signature that is really difficult to match or something - it's too fast so i/ll slow the deck down and then adjust the pitch the minutest amount and it's suddenly way too slow.
are there any production factors that could make a song just not fit with anything else? |
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| Acid John |
some songs naturally change pitch... even if its only a little bit.. or even if it seems like a quality pressing, it might have some small defect...
just ride the pitch slider and play it by ear.
or maybe try cueing it up in a different place and seeing how that goes? |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| yes like its already been mentioned there are tracks with "unnatural tempo's"...a common example is G&D's "Arcadia" (original mix) jumps from 128 to 129 or something like that in merely the last minute or so...so you can either memorize the increment that it jumps or if your fast enough you can catch it before your incoming track is brought in...try mixing from the middle of your track on a breakdown to see if it does the same thing. |
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| carreux |
thanks for the thoughts, i'll give those ideas a shot. so far i've just cued it slightly too fast and held my finger on the spinner to slow it own just enough, but it's a pretty ty result.
cheers |
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| KilldaDJ |
| it might be worth ripping that particular track as an mp3 and analysing it on teh computer (perhaps sony acid or something) and if it does fluctuate in tempo, u might have to cut it up a bit and 're-sync' it so to speak. burn it onto a cd and get the CDJ out |
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| Tony Morello |
practice more
no joke
i had tracks i thought were "unmixable"
i go back to those now and think "wow, this is easy" |
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| Fearless One |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
practice more
no joke
i had tracks i thought were "unmixable"
i go back to those now and think "wow, this is easy" |
true
i thought the same about some breaks tracks by hybrid... firstly i thought it just impossible, but now it's piece of cake... almost :p |
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| Nemesis44 |
Sometimes with Whitelabels or even regular prods you can get some really dodgy cut and paste style edits that can screw you up.
Also if the hole in the vinyl isn't in the centre can also have an impact.
Cheers
Nem |
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| sleepydragon |
| quote: | Originally posted by carreux
i don't notice the pitch speeding/slowing, it just seems to have a weird timing signature that is really difficult to match or something - it's too fast so i/ll slow the deck down and then adjust the pitch the minutest amount and it's suddenly way too slow.
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if the track is only the slightest bit to fast why not just bring it in and correct with the platter? |
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