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What to do about North Korea? (pg. 2)
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| LatinLover |
NK has always if you want to use the term "bullied" the USA in the past with their Nuclear intiatives just to get the USA into talks with them. Ofcourse, the USA had been playing this game all a long until now that we see that the USA is turning into immediate sancations under the UN(Chp 7) meaning that if military presence is needed to impose the sactions, the military will be used.
From what I know Russia and China want all this "nuclear tests" to stop simply for security reasons and for instability in the region. From the sactions that Im hearing that the USA has put down in the table, one of them will be to inspect/block any type of material that goes in and out of NK that can aid their Nuclear programm(so that means that Iran will lose from it because after all they do give Iran these type of materials) but also NK does business with China and Russia and it seems with the economic sanctions that the USA and its allies want to impose will hurt not only NK but also China and Russia. So China and Russia just want "some" sanctions to take place.
supposebly the Chinesse were alerted by NK on the time that the test took place. |
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| occrider |
| Send in Team America. America, yea. |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
I think they want another deal like the one they got under CLinton. BUt can you trust Kim Jung Ill. NO!!
Countries are turning into hypochondriacs these days. Look at Venezuela, Iran, North Korean. They have this percieved threat that they are being threatened when trully, they are the threat. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
They have this percieved threat that they are being threatened when trully, they are the threat. |
can you explain how Iran is a threat to the world?did test any nukes?any evidence of them making any?:o |
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| Philby |
| invade them. oh wait, they don't have oil. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
I think they want another deal like the one they got under CLinton. BUt can you trust Kim Jung Ill. NO!!
Countries are turning into hypochondriacs these days. Look at Venezuela, Iran, North Korean. They have this percieved threat that they are being threatened when trully, they are the threat. |
You've got it the other way around, this Administration is teaching a bitter lesson to the rest of the world, particularly countries it's interested in for economic/strategic purposes to maintain American hegemony and it's quest for Empire; you'd better have a deterrent to war, or we'll invade you. Iraq is a perfect example of this. The greatest threat to world peace is the Bush Administration and it's policies. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Send in Team America. America, yea. |
They're gonna save the motherf***ing day, yeah. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
The greatest threat to world peace is the Bush Administration and it's policies. |
so what you're saying is that once the Bush Administration is gone in 2 years the world will be peaches and cream and kumbaya? |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
so what you're saying is that once the Bush Administration is gone in 2 years the world will be peaches and cream and kumbaya? |
No, it's going to take a while to undo the damage they've done. I'm not even sure how that's going to be accomplished since some of it seems beyond repair, like NK testing it's nukes. Another wonderful accomplishment of this administration is making Iraq a training and recruiting ground for terrorism. There's an entire generation of people who want revenge now to pick from. Their actions are only escalating the threat of terrorism and encouraging nuclear proliferation. But you should know me better than that Q, I don't have faith in eigther political party (both political parties = different corporate managment team, no substantial difference in code of conduct). Ofcourse, that doesn't change the fact that this is the worst and most extreme administration we've ever had. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
No, it's going to take a while to undo the damage they've done. I'm not even sure how that's going to be accomplished since some of it seems beyond repair, like NK testing it's nukes. Another wonderful accomplishment of this administration is making Iraq a training and recruiting ground for terrorism. There's an entire generation of people who want revenge now to pick from. Their actions are only escalating the threat of terrorism and encouraging nuclear proliferation. But you should know me better than that Q, I don't have faith in eigther political party (both political parties = different corporate managment team, no substantial difference in code of conduct). Ofcourse, that doesn't change the fact that this is the worst and most extreme administration we've ever had. |
thats cool, cuz i believe it will go back to peaches and cream when the Bush Administration leaves in two years. what would you say then? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Philby
invade them. oh wait, they don't have oil. |
stick to command & conquer you noob :p |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
North Koreans are fiercely nationalistic, just like any other human in any other country.
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I dont know about this, I havent heard it; not been there too.. but from what I can guess, once Kim Jong is suddenly killed by its own country men.. scores of North Koreans will try to flee into South Korea in the hope of having a better life.. like they will swarm in border areas requesting SK to take them in and there will be a skirmish kindda of thing there.. (This smilar kind of thing happenend when India opened its border to pass aids to Pakistan after the earthquake in Kashmir.. scores of Pakies tried to infiltrate on the Indian side for food/shelter; poverty dosent allow people to be nationalists and patriotic)..
Now at this time play politics/diplomacy.. say South Korea and Japan not to interfere in any political development in North Korea and give China a complete free hand to 'assist' North Koreans in setting up peace/stability and a new government in NK.. be it communist.. or anything...
China will prolly just make someone pro-China the top man in NK.. and slowly turn it to China's lapdog... (However SK may feircly object to all this, but they cant do anything much other than protest). |
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