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DJM800 vs Xone:92
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| djole071 |
Well the time came, and I'm looking to buy a new mixer... the one i had in mind was the Xone:92 but im hearing a lot of good things about the DJM800... I hear that the DJM is a lot better sounding with CDJ1000's (because of the digital option)..
can anyone help?.. i'm not worried about the extra couple hundred for the xone:92.. which one is better?
thanks! |
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| idoru |
| Topics like this generally consist of people who are either pro-Xone or pro-Pioneer, and very few people are in between. It's all down to what you want, really. Just compare what each of them offers compared to the other, go somewhere to try them out, and decide for yourself. :) |
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| The Don |
| Hows about going to a shop and trying both of them... |
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| SPAWNmaster |
both Idoru and the Don are right...the only one whos dishing out $1.5k+ for these is you so it comes down to personal choice. its pretty much digital vs. analog and if you want some info on the DJM800 i have a thread (youve probably seen it) about my experience since i just got mine...both are outstanding mixers and both are considered "industry standards" for the club scene these days. ask yourself what you want to get out of it....is it a money issue? do you plan on incorporating digital media such as ableton? do you like analog sound over digital?
hope it helps
cheers |
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| jupiterone |
| both have midi capability, so you can use them with ableton and such along with hooking in your decks...But honestly, are you going to hear that much of a drastic different in +sound quality from the 800 over the 92 if its supposed to make the 1000 sounds better. Unless youre going to take that thing to a club that has an underpar mixer. Both also have similar price ranges. Id say go test it out somewhere if you can. |
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| Prism |
| go out and try them both like someone said already...I have the 800 then I never looked at 92 so I cant compare, it wouldnt make any sense for me to get a 92 with my CDJs and efx I chose all Pioneer just try them both and see for yourself |
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| djole071 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Prism
wouldnt make any sense for me to get a 92 with my CDJs and efx I chose all Pioneer just try them both and see for yourself |
See this is where my situation comes in.. i do have 2 CDJ1000's, and i plan to get a EFX1000.. which is sort of an advantage for the DJM800 right?... |
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| Wisnia |
Could someone please tell me how the filters work with the djm 800 (they do have them right?). Do they have a low pass, high pass and band pass like the xone's or are they different? I saw one the other day, saw that it had the color filters, but i didnt play with it.
Does the djm have a frequency knob? |
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| discobiscuit |
well, each of the color effects is a filter (or maybe 3 of the 4 are), so there's 3 or 4 right off the bat that the xone doesnt have. you can use each of those filters over each of the bpm/onboard effects (echo, delay, rev delay, pan, trans, filter, phaser, reverb, robot, chorus, roll, rev roll, snd/rtn). technically, there are like over 50 filter combos (i think). i'm still waiting on my djm800 in the mail (will have tomorrow), but i dont think the xone touches it.. i mean maybe the xone might sound a little better better and the high low filters might be sick as hell, but come on... the djm800 is hooked the up!! and its cheeper...
maybe pairing the onboard filter with the color filters might give you that high/low pass filter control like the xone... |
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| starboy |
| Ive heard the filters on the djm 800 and they do not even compare to the one's on the xone's, sooo much nicer on the xones. |
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| skip |
| i'd go for the xone:92 mainly because it has a better cueing system IMO (ability to choose between pre/post eq monitoring). and you can also get it as a rotary version (dunno if you can get a rotary kit for the djm though). the djm is 100% digital and has loads of effects if that's your thing and it looks loads better than the silver xone:92 xmas tree. still i wouldn't think twice, i'd get the xone. :cool: |
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| Ryan0751 |
Definately both mixers are really really nice. I bought the Xone 92 rotary before the DJM-800 came out (and yes, a rotary kit is available for the DJM-800).
As I see it:
Xone 92 Benefits
- It's really built like a tank. While the DJM-800 is MUCH better than the DJM-500/600, it still doesn't feel quite as solid as the Xone (in terms of knobs and controls and such). I took the cover off of my Xone recently (to disable the RIAA phono pre-amps on a couple channels), and I was really amazed at the quality under the hood. Top notch and very "low-tech" old school. I would think the Xone's are less prone to failure (simply because of the simplicity of the design).
- The filters. Everyone knows about the filters, and I'd take them over any other effects units any day. I rarely even use them as "effects" per-se, but use them all the time when mixing. Using a high pass filter really gives you a nice clean way to EQ. I haven't played with the 800 enough to really know if they are as usable as the Xone's. And yes, being completely analog they do sound really unique.
- It's a fantastic sounding mixer. I wouldn't buy into the theory that the DJM-800 sounds "better" because of the digital link to the CDJ's. The sound has to be converted to analog somewhere, in the Xone you do it "before" the mixer, and the 800 you can do "after" the mixer. They both sound great, but sound "different". Which you like better is preference. If you play vinyl, they Xone has fantastic pre-amps.
- Has a lot of routing options with the auxilary channels and such (essentially makes it a 6 channel mixer).
- 4 band EQ's. Some people love this, some people find it overkill. It can be useful to really pinpoint and separate sounds when mixing.
DJM-800 Benefits
- Bells and whistles galore, with the built in effects and such.
- Has a "standard" effects loop, which is more intuitive (but perhaps less flexible) than the Xone routing scheme.
- Full MIDI support. The Xone has MIDI, but only a few controls actually output MIDI (crossfader, filter frequency knobs, and maybe 2-3 other ones, as well as a midi clock). I've recently been playing with ableton, and really don't miss full MIDI control on the mixer. It might seem like the DJM-800 is a perfect MIDI controller/mixer, but when you actually try to set it all up there are a number of obstacles which still require an external MIDI controller. Still nice to have the MIDI support, though.
- Digital thoughout, so the sound is definately nice and crisp. Also, it's 24/96 digital, which is WORLDS better than previous digital mixers which were only 16 bit.
If I had to choose today, it would be a hard decision to make! Though I think my Xone is pretty much "future-proof", since there's nothing to really go obsolete in it! :) |
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