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farris
Doh! Never thought I'd start a thread but here goes :p
I was goofing around with a melody yesterday and got one which I was quite satisfied with.
One thing I forgot was to set an appropriate BPM after starting a new project and only noticed it too late (again Doh!),
so it's written on the initial 120 BPM which most sequencer start off with.
Now I want to have this melody on 134 BPM (or any BPM for that matter for future reference).
Of course just setting it to 134 will have it all play too fast.
Might be a stupid question with an obvious answer:
Is there a away I can rearrange the notes to have approximately the same pace/speed
as I had them on 120 BPM, but playing at 134 BPM?
The melody spans 1 bar now and I reckon it'll span more after rearranging.
Thanks for any help tackling this! :)

- farris
MrJiveBoJingles
Tempo is tempo. There's really no good way to change the actual speed of the melody (time between one note and the next) in a situation like that without making it sound weird.

But to decrease the apparent speed of the melody, you could try lowering the release time on the notes so that they don't run together as much, or if you have a delay going you could decrease the feedback on the delay or make the delay less "wet."
DigiNut
If you wrote a 1-bar melody at 120, you're not going to get very far trying to spread it to 2 bars at 134. The tempos are far too close together. Personally I don't really see why you can't just change the tempo... only thing that might get in the way is if you have instruments/samples with long attacks or releases, in which case, just shorten them.
farris
Thanks for your replies guys.
MrJiveBoJingles: Good points, I'll look into that.

DigiNut: I've been listening to it way too long also.
Maybe my ears just got used to 120 while working on it and everything else just seems WAY too fast.
Anyway...I'll see if I can get somewhere first in 'dry mode', lose some delay and maybe even lose some notes.
Else it's bye-bye and into the 'never-to-be-seen-again-folder' :)

Again thanks!

- farris
The Vox
This happends to me when I write something in a certain BPM and then want to change it to another one. After you get familiar with a track, playing it at a different speed or key just makes it sound "wrong", but that's not because the track itself sounds bad, it's just because you're biased.

Treat this like you would mastering. Change your BPM to 134, then let it sit in a folder somewhere and don't touch it for a week or two. Then when you come back to it, the speed won't bother you anymore.
Lindo
what sequencer? i got a way for ableton.
T-Soma
quote:
Originally posted by Lindo
what sequencer? i got a way for ableton.


Enlighten us.
echosystm
um... why the hell would u try to stretch the melody?!

if you do that it will be more or less the same as playing at the original tempo... except it will get really annoying and nothing will be in time :P
richg101
i would render it at 120bpm so you have solid audio which you can then timestretch to whatever speed you want. your attacks/delays will all sound right then.
mysticalninja
i have a feeling he recorded the melody at 120 (default) without a clicktrack and now hes wondering why it doesnt sound right when he changes tempo?

farris
dj_palm: I've got the midi. As I said in my first post it just sounds better at 120,
but might be because I listened to it way too often on that speed and after realizing
I had it on 120 and setting it to a faster BPM it sounded too fast for my feeling.
I'll get back to it in a couple of weeks and set it to 134 (or something close to that) and see if it still sounds 'wack'.

Lindo: I'm using Ableton :)! Care to give some pointers?

mysticalninja: No. Please read :rolleyes:

Thanks for the replies and suggestions so far guys!

- farris
Fledz
Why not just leave it? You might have a really sweet downtempo track there :)

Then just do a remix from scratch at the desired bpm.
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