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Bang Music Festival 2006 - REVIEW (pg. 9)
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| Xyzpdq0121 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattivi
the thing is with international dj superstars like Tiesto, PVD, AVB, is that they TOUR CONSTANTLY. which means they play to the masses and play to newer fans ALL THE TIME, which means they HAVE to drop cheesey hits like Love Comes Again, Shiver, Crush, etc. because that is what the crowd wants to hear, who is not as in tune to EDM as me or you. the constant over touring also leads to the diluted set quality due to exhaustion, boredom, etc. this does not neccesarily mean that they suck or 'have lost it' compared to the past. hell the music now is much different than it was 5-6 years ago when Tiesto was just so awesome as some of you think.
anyone expecting to hear a mint set or "A-Game" set from tiesto in atlanta is either clueless or delusional. the only place where tiesto might play an "A-Game" set in north america was at space miami, or docks toronto in recent memory. he might play some good sets in other cities but nothing epic. the environment and the crowd have to be right for him to throw an "A Game" set, thats why almost every set he threw down at space miami was great, because it was experienced crowd of clubbers, a legendary club, and a great vibe. a club in atlanta, ohio, north carolina, tennessee, texas, is almost assuredly 75% trance virgens who want to hear the Just Be cheese tracks and Traffic as if those tracks are the paragon of EDM productions, when in actuallity they suck. u can often read on the tiesto forums, where legions of clueless noobs post they were mad when tijs didnt drop 'traffic or LCA' as if tiesto let them down. most of us diehard fans would be overjoyed he ditched those played out tunes for the nite, but not the noobs, which is who is playing for these days. most of his gigs are at new locations, cites, and venues=hi noob factor=sub par sets+the over touring.
not trying to come off as an arrogant prick, but some of you really dont look at all the angles. tiesto hasnt really lost it; the sound has changed, his crwod demographic has changed, and the venues has changed. basically tiesto is a victim of his own success, too big too fast. i really think he is returning back to form that he had before he won those 2nd and 3rd #1 awards. at least he is experimenting with new sounds which is refreshing, he is not stuck in the generic sounds of progtrance like AVB. well its been fun, but school is out kids
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Point taken, I was excited to hear Tiesto drop some older stuff, it was a refreshing change of pace. I get sick of all the "EDM snobs" that put someone down for playing a classic track. The classics bring back memories and let you relive some good times.
My problem is that Tiesto's mixing sucks. His progression of tracks is sub par. Basically all the things I expect to be point on for a top DJ. Grant you, it is not nearly as bad as Oakenfolds last essential mix or anything, but worse then I expected. I was excited about the sound of ISOS 5, mainly disk 1, and wanted to hear a bit of that sound. I think there is no excuse for the first 30 min of Tiesto's set. Yes I stayed for the whole thing and yes it got better. But just like I expect my star baseball pitchers to bring their best EVERYTIME they step to the mound, I expect the same from my DJs. Too big too fast is an understatement. But instead of realizing what he needs to work on or what his fans are saying, Tiesto is just wrapped up in being Tiesto, the former #1 DJ in the world! Maybe he should stop designing the Tiesto line of shoes and start working on his beat matching and progression.
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| Mattivi |
its actually well documented that tiesto consider's himself a "risky mixer' and really isnt all that concerned with that faze of his game. he actually said its taken him longer to learn how to mix cd's but i think thats just an excuse. and i agree that his mixing could use some work, alot sometimes. at any rate, tiesto's forte' has always been track selection, nrg, and set structure(which might be the same as when you say set progression, i dont know). personaly to me not a lot of people can build a set like tiesto, at least WHEN ive seen him. thats the whole idea behind the 'magik journey' thats he's known for. ive seen tiesto 29 times since 2001 and ive clubbed for along time seen alot of great djs and sets of ALL genres. but for some reason i still hold tiesto sets ive seen the most dear.
to expect these dj's to bring their A game everytime is just plain unrealistic. i remember during his just be tour he had 21 gigs in 25days. now granted that him and his manager's fault for overbooking, but they are just trying to satisfy the growing demand for him and make all the fans happy, which is not good from a peformance standpoint.
persoannly i thought ISOS4=+5 both sucked , the mixing is absolutely inexcusable for a MIXtape, and the tracks were average at best, but to each their own. i think most can agree he's been putting out these last couple of albums for money and exposure. isos seris should be formated for only one disc. 'just be' was horrible in comparison to in my memory, but then again tiesto uses a sound engineer. but my big problem with tiesto lately is that he's too concerned with proliferating his popularity and becoming 'tiesto' the brand, "in concert pioneer/enertainer", instead of "DJ tiesto", the dj. ur defitnly right that he needs to focus more on djing, instead of trying to take over the music world and produce crappy pop hits in los angeles, and have his own fashion line. i swear i can see "Magik Wear" as his next endeavor, lol.:D |
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| hiram |
umm tiestos track selection and progression are the best out there IMO, his mixing is a different story. hit or miss at best. still a good DJ and made me dance my ass off this past sat.
anyways..... anyone have any sets??? |
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| av1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xyzpdq0121
I love Tiesto as much as the next person that can remember his roots.
I was excited to see Tiesto again. I have worn out my copy on ISOS 5 Disk 1. Hell he could have popped that CD in and hit play and I would have been happier with it then I am with his set on Saturday.
Lets be honest, I do not know what he has lost in his live sets, passion, love for performing, his mind, (take your pick) but he HAS lost something! |
I will not go over all the valid points that Mattivi has already made in response to your statements about Tiesto and the direction his sets have taken.
With that said you apparently do not love Tiesto as much as the next person, because you are unfairly bashing his set @ Bang. Micro-analyzing anything can easily lead to unfounded criticism, and I find that people love to do so when it comes to big name DJs like Tiesto, AVB, PVD and Ferry. So you are not happy with every track he played, every mix he did, every second of the set, well then too bad so sad, go to another stage and listen to something else. :rolleyes: Tiesto was not just playing for you, and the overwhelming majority of people that heard him @ Bang loved his set. Some of my friends hate trance, and were there for some of his set, and liked it. They all said Tiesto is not just the "cheesy" trance DJ he has been labeled as, instead he is "diverse" and understands change and diversity is good.
I mean you like the commercial crap that is ISOS 5 and want him to play that crap (CD 1 much less) at a festival???? Are you kidding us or are you just crazy?? That says it all, you are clueless as that is the last thing anyone wants to hear from Tiesto live @ a festival. Maybe ISOS 5 is good at bedtime, but not at a festival.
Contrary to your opinion Tiesto has not lost anything in his live sets when he plays in MIA where he is doing fine (Mansion conference set :eyespop: and Bang :crazy: ). At Bang he was so into it, not just standing there like a robot like other DJs do, and the crowd fed off his energy. I just can't wait to see him again, especially at conference. Maybe Tiesto lost you, and if so, so be it. To each his own. |
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| hiram |
| quote: | Originally posted by av1
I will not go over all the valid points that Mattivi has already made in response to your statements about Tiesto and the direction his sets have taken.
With that said you apparently do not love Tiesto as much as the next person, because you are unfairly bashing his set @ Bang. Micro-analyzing anything can easily lead to unfounded criticism, and I find that people love to do so when it comes to big name DJs like Tiesto, AVB, PVD and Ferry. So you are not happy with every track he played, every mix he did, every second of the set, well then too bad so sad, go to another stage and listen to something else. :rolleyes: Tiesto was not just playing for you, and the overwhelming majority of people that heard him @ Bang loved his set. Some of my friends hate trance, and were there for some of his set, and liked it. They all said Tiesto is not just the "cheesy" trance DJ he has been labeled as, instead he is "diverse" and understands change and diversity is good.
I mean you like the commercial crap that is ISOS 5 and want him to play that crap (CD 1 much less) at a festival???? Are you kidding us or are you just crazy?? That says it all, you are clueless as that is the last thing anyone wants to hear from Tiesto live @ a festival. Maybe ISOS 5 is good at bedtime, but not at a festival.
Contrary to your opinion Tiesto has not lost anything in his live sets when he plays in MIA where he is doing fine (Mansion conference set :eyespop: and Bang :crazy: ). At Bang he was so into it, not just standing there like a robot like other DJs do, and the crowd fed off his energy. I just can't wait to see him again, especially at conference. Maybe Tiesto lost you, and if so, so be it. To each his own. |
i also noticed tiesto was very into his set and the crowd was deff loving it. |
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| DarkAngel |
| quote: | Originally posted by hiram
umm tiestos track selection and progression are the best out there IMO, his mixing is a different story. |
/hijack
The same could be said for me.
:toothless
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| Mattivi |
| quote: | Originally posted by av1
I will not go over all the valid points that Mattivi has already made in response to your statements about Tiesto and the direction his sets have taken.
With that said you apparently do not love Tiesto as much as the next person, because you are unfairly bashing his set @ Bang. Micro-analyzing anything can easily lead to unfounded criticism, and I find that people love to do so when it comes to big name DJs like Tiesto, AVB, PVD and Ferry. So you are not happy with every track he played, every mix he did, every second of the set, well then too bad so sad, go to another stage and listen to something else. :rolleyes: Tiesto was not just playing for you, and the overwhelming majority of people that heard him @ Bang loved his set. Some of my friends hate trance, and were there for some of his set, and liked it. They all said Tiesto is not just the "cheesy" trance DJ he has been labeled as, instead he is "diverse" and understands change and diversity is good.
I mean you like the commercial crap that is ISOS 5 and want him to play that crap (CD 1 much less) at a festival???? Are you kidding us or are you just crazy?? That says it all, you are clueless as that is the last thing anyone wants to hear from Tiesto live @ a festival. Maybe ISOS 5 is good at bedtime, but not at a festival.
Contrary to your opinion Tiesto has not lost anything in his live sets when he plays in MIA where he is doing fine (Mansion conference set :eyespop: and Bang :crazy: ). At Bang he was so into it, not just standing there like a robot like other DJs do, and the crowd fed off his energy. I just can't wait to see him again, especially at conference. Maybe Tiesto lost you, and if so, so be it. To each his own. |
well said;) :D ive always felt that what really set tiesto apart from the rest was his diversity, the man loves to experiment with his musik and the way he puts the set together. even tho he doesnt play the same brand of musik he used too, he still keeps that essence of trying to take u on a journey. he's not great all the time, but who is. and ISOS5 at an outdoor festival would not be congruent. |
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| Mattivi |
cool vid, second sun rocked it out. honestly excluding steve angello, i enjoyed every set i saw at bang thoroghly. |
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| LiquidX |
| I on the other hand was really digging all that techy sound he was playing in the beginning, he was definetly adapting some of the sound that other, believe it or not, progressive DJ's have thrown into their peak times on their sets.. and Tiesto seemed to pick some of that harder, edgier sounds.. which I personally liked. Maybe because Ive embraced the techno-minimal - progressive sound lately?!?! perhaps.. AS to the direction he took... I didnt study he's set tbh, I was having fun. The Dance 4 life track has something that really had everyone going nuts, I dont dislike the track compared to having to listen to the Adagios for Strings .. but having said that, I think he had it. It was a different Tiesto though, tougher on the tracks, edgier, and a lot of stuff I dont rreally know. The point that dropped me back to earth though, was Rui Da silva track.. never liked it, and the repetition on the radio and sets just made me hate it, but besides that.. it was all good. Not a set that I would go WoW best set Ive ever heard, but definetly one of the best stuff I heard on Bang! |
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| av1 |
| For anyone who is interested, YouTube has a bunch of clips from Bang. Alot of Tiesto and Daft Punk ones R included and some are not bad. |
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