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Mixing using software or hardware? (pg. 2)
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | | When I was recording straight into my soundcard in cubase, the signal was always much more quiet than recording the virus using the same soundcard. That could be fixed by normalizing and using some plugins, or using the gain increase in cubase, but the sound wasn't exactly the same after that..well let's just say the dynamics were a bit lost. |
Normalizing does not kill the dynamics of audio. Neither does increasing the gain, for that matter. Both of those methods increase the amplitude of the signal by a constant rate.
If normalizing decreased the dynamics of audio, it would be a form of compression. But it's not. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Not to be a bitch about this, but I would be interested to see a demo of the two methods (purely digital mix and digital plus analog summing) side by side. |
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| KILLEMALL |
looks the sh!t man
total noob at mixing - what software do i want to start learning? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Software? I thought we were discussing analog hardware mixing...
Any DAW with audio-out/in should allow you to do this, I think. |
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| KILLEMALL |
cubase is what i got
not impressed - i mean im starting at the bottom - need get to know a good software. have used - LIVE osx, gardgeband osx, cubase xp osx,
all i dont like - i want to start of with something that i can work with |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Any of those programs is capable of making a professional track in the right hands. If you don't like any of those ones, maybe you should try Logic, Digital Performer, Pro-Tools, Sonar, Reason, Tracktion, FL Studio, or Adobe Audition.
And if you're still "not impressed" enough to work with one of those, then maybe electronic music production isn't for you.
:p
But you really ought to find a DAW that works for you before you start worrying about whether an analog summing mixer is something you need. |
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| KILLEMALL |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Any of those programs is capable of making a professional track in the right hands. If you don't like any of those ones, maybe you should try Logic, Digital Performer, Pro-Tools, Sonar, Reason, Tracktion, FL Studio, or Adobe Audition.
And if you're still "not impressed" enough to work with one of those, then maybe electronic music production isn't for you.
:p
But you really ought to find a DAW that works for you before you start worrying about whether an analog summing mixer is something you need. |
your in my shoes
which piece of sofware do you go for
im ready and waiting to click dl |
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| KILLEMALL |
| i can mix by the way |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| I have used Logic, Ableton, and Reason. I'm fond of all three and have made things that I like in each one. No whole tracks that I am satisfied with yet, but I think that is due more to my own lack of production knowledge than to any limitations "inherent" in any of those three programs. |
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| mysticalninja |
| get fl studio or ableton dawg those are more ur level. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| I think he said that he has tried Live already. |
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| Krispy Kreme |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
So wait a minute. You convert from digital to analogue. Send an audio signal outboard to an analogue mixer. Mix it down. Then convert the analogue signal back to digital?
What the hell?
The only time where this will ever sound anything better than is if you have spectacular conversion. I'm talking Apogee Rosetta 200 and up. Ideally the Benchmark convertors or (gulp) those Prism Sound Dream convertors. Forget about sending digital signals outboard and back into your DAW again if you don't have convertors that are up to that grade.
'Class A' is a term in electronic amplification where power efficiency is not a concern. Most amplifiers that amplify small input signals will be Class A amplifiers. This includes ty solid state guitar practice amps.
So basically this extra loudness and 'hotter' signal you are talking about - has nothing to do with the mixer. Rather it has to do with the fact that you are preamping the signal before it goes back into the soundcard input. So why not save yourself the extra 2 conversion stages and just increase the pregain on the relevant channel in the internal mixer on your DAW?
I have never heard of adding 2 extra conversion stages and the end result sounding good unless your convertors are crafted by god himself.
Rule of thumb for anyone that has any ideas: Dont bother with mixing outboard unless you have amazing convertors (i.e. Apogee AD16/DA16, Prism Sound 8XR) or an amazing soundcard with built in convertors. Which happen to be amazing (i.e. Apogee Rosetta 200/800).
Forget about outboard amplification unless you have spectacular preamplification (like, some UAD 610 preamp or one of those Avalon Tube monsters).
If you are producing on a budget and you are all digital, the best thing you can do with respect to the fidelity of the digital signal is to keep it digital at the highest bit depth and sample rate possible all the way until the end of your project where you then dither it down to a CD/DVD playback standard.
If you are just looking to hotten up your signal there are plenty of digital amp models available as plugins. The everpresent Amplitube is one of them. Voxengo Warmifier is another - both of them are pretty good and the digital signal stays digital.
If you are recording from loads of analogue outboard then its a whole different ballgame but you still want decent convertors. |
Is there a mac version of Voxengo Warmifier ? or something similar to this? I couldnt find anything like it. |
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