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Lebanese Christian minister is assassinated (pg. 2)
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Marc Summers
man I dont speak arbaic! lol i can read2q

wdit: omg this is my own thread
Epicurus
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First of all, I don't see where you read Annahar. No where in that article is Annahar mentioned. The article states that SANA contacted a Pro-Syrian Lebanese newspaper to inquire about the murder. They don't even mention its name, let alone Annahar, which is obviously anti-Syrian to the bone.

Second of all, I don't know if you follow the Arabic media, but if you do, you would know that Al-Seyassah (A Kuwaiti "newspaper") has a reputation equivalent to the National Inquirer here in the States. They're basically a Tabloid. I wouldn't believe a word they say.
DJ_SideFx
Yes Obviously in this article it says a pro Syrian lebanese Newspaper

But this info was mentioned yesterday on LBC (Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation) and they mentioned An Nahhar

I have no idea about al Seyassah Reputation but since LBC mentionned the info i guess in the coming days we wil hear more about this.
Epicurus
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Originally posted by DJ_SideFx
Yes Obviously in this article it says a pro Syrian lebanese Newspaper

But this info was mentioned yesterday on LBC (Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation) and they mentioned An Nahhar

I have no idea about al Seyassah Reputation but since LBC mentionned the info i guess in the coming days we wil hear more about this.


If LBC did mention this, then that's extremely sloppy journalism on their part. First of all, their statement is contradicted by the actual Al-Seyassah article. Second of all, why would SANA contact Annahar, out of all Lebanese newspapers? Why not As-Safir, or Al-Akhbar, whose positions are much more sympathetic to the Syrian regime? Third of all, they actually gave an article from Al-Seyassah airtime??? And misquoted them on top of that??? This reeks of desperation to pin the murder on Syria.
DJ_SideFx
No just that the first info about this was given by AnSeyassah but im sure since that the journalists made their research and got more info about it.

Do you really think LBC will give a false info without checking it ?
LBC is the most trusted news agency broadcasted in all the arab world so i dont think they will take a chnace like that by giving false info.
Epicurus
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Originally posted by DJ_SideFx
No just that the first info about this was given by AnSeyassah but im sure since that the journalists made their research and got more info about it.

Do you really think LBC will give a false info without checking it ?
LBC is the most trusted news agency broadcasted in all the arab world so i dont think they will take a chnace like that by giving false info.


LBC most trusted news agency in the Arab world??? I think you're being blinded by your Lebanese nationalism here. Al-Jazeera is by far and away the most trusted news source in the Arab world (as seen by its viewing numbers). LBC is not even the most trusted source of news in Lebanon! You have to remember that like everything else in Lebanon, the media is split along sectarian lines. LBC was orignally founded by the LF and has a pro-Christian bent. Future was founded by Hariri and has a pro-Sunni bent. Manar was founded by Hizballah...

So their reportage on the Seyassah article has to be seen within the above context. LBC will jump at the slightest piece of evidence to demonize Syria, as they have over the past year and a half (and most of the time rightfully so), regardless of the evidence presented (unfortunately). And I'm saying this as someone who abhores the murderous Syrian regime next door. I like to take my time before I accuse anyone of anything, and I'm simply contesting the evidence in this case: presenting a misquoted article by Al-Seyassah is enough to lose credibility in my eyes.

Furthemore, I checked the Annahar website (both in Arabic and English) and nowhere could I find any mention of SANA having contacted them. You would think that something like that would be plastered all over their front page. As for LBC making things up without checking their facts, it happens all the time. Here's but a simple example, where LBC claims that Elia Kazan is Lebanese, when he's really a Greek from Turkey (click here). Granted, not a terrible mistake, but a mere example of not checking facts and a reflection of symptomatic slopiness by LBC in general.
ShadoWolf
Lebanon was set up by the French as an oasis of Christianity in the Middle East. It was majority Christian until the Civil War.

Muslims are now the majority, and the assassination is further to their conquest of the country.
Epicurus
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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Lebanon was set up by the French as an oasis of Christianity in the Middle East. It was majority Christian until the Civil War.

Muslims are now the majority, and the assassination is further to their conquest of the country.


As always, brilliant analysis.
tazzjayz
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Originally posted by Epicurus
LBC most trusted news agency in the Arab world??? I think you're being blinded by your Lebanese nationalism here. Al-Jazeera is by far and away the most trusted news source in the Arab world (as seen by its viewing numbers).


Calling Al Jazeera trusted and credible is like saying that George W. Bush never lied to the Amerrican public or never acted according to his own benefit.

Al Jazeera is BS news reporting only covering instances where arabs are suffering, but when israeli kids get blown up in buses they won't cover it. When Americans kill Iraqi's it's all over the news but when Serbs got killed, nothing. Double standard at it's finest.
Epicurus
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Originally posted by tazzjayz
Calling Al Jazeera trusted and credible is like saying that George W. Bush never lied to the Amerrican public or never acted according to his own benefit.

Al Jazeera is BS news reporting only covering instances where arabs are suffering, but when israeli kids get blown up in buses they won't cover it. When Americans kill Iraqi's it's all over the news but when Serbs got killed, nothing. Double standard at it's finest.


You're missing the point. Al-Jazeera, whether you like it or not, is the most trusted news source in the Arab world, as decided by the majority of people in the Arab world . In other words, people of the Arab world trust Al-Jazeera much more than any other news channel. That's a fact, which is reflected by the overwhelming number of viewers that watch it for news, relative to LBC for instance, which caters to a much smaller populace (although Al-Arabiya is catching up fast). Whether you or me believe it is biased has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Re-read the context in which this came up.

Epicurus
This is a poll that was conducted in 2004 by Zogby International in association with the Anwar Sadat chair for peace and development that provides the evidence backing up my above claim about Al-Jazeera (scroll down to Arab media).

This is Zogby responding to criticism about the poll by Ash-Sharq el Awsat. There's some merit to the criticism, but either way, it can be credibly claimed that either Al-Jazeera or Al-Arabiya are the two most watched/trusted news channels in the Arab world. Certainly not LBC.

Edit:/ Embedded link for poll doesn't work for whatever reason.
Just google: zogby poll al jazeera
and click on the first link (scroll down)
shaolin_Z
@ Epicrus: I didn't know you knew Arabic. That's pretty cool.
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