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Sasha's Delay effect in Ableton (pg. 6)
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| plaxx |
cant wait for the high res shot!
great info Blake, nice chat with the guy. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| can someone explain sidechaining again? and possibly post a sample? |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
can someone explain sidechaining again? and possibly post a sample? |
sidechaining, in a nut shell, is making one sound react to another. perfect example (although an extreme one) is eric prydz - call on me. when it kicks back in after the break, the vocal is sidechaining (reacting to) the kick, ducking itself everytime the kick appears and reappearing as the kick decays giving it that pumping sound. sasha is using it to duck bass frequencies of the already playing track, which is reacting to the bass frequencies of the new track which is coming in, so it sort of pumps as it comes in and sounds pretty natural and tight. im not entirely sure he did this every mix, but the ones he did were obvious that he was indeed sidechaining.
the real trick is setting up the sidechain correctly, with good settings on the compressor. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
the real trick is setting up the sidechain correctly, with good settings on the compressor. |
talk about a b****
maybe hes got it set up where it does it for him :p |
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| Ivand |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
talk about a b****
maybe hes got it set up where it does it for him :p |
lol, automated maven sidechainin!
thanks for the info jake, im waiting the screenshot :p
now, to the ablecaveton robin! |
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| Ivand |
| quote: | Originally posted by jahnlay
It's a Reverb, and Sasha also cuts all the bass while he does the delay too, for more info if you didn't already see that. |
yeah, but theres one missing plugin, before reverb i think i almost got it omgidie |
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| |Thrax| |
Blake, you rule. Thanks.:)
Another great example of sidechaining is Daft Punk. That french house "pumping" sound. Where the kickdrum ducks. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
sidechaining, in a nut shell, is making one sound react to another. perfect example (although an extreme one) is eric prydz - call on me. when it kicks back in after the break, the vocal is sidechaining (reacting to) the kick, ducking itself everytime the kick appears and reappearing as the kick decays giving it that pumping sound. sasha is using it to duck bass frequencies of the already playing track, which is reacting to the bass frequencies of the new track which is coming in, so it sort of pumps as it comes in and sounds pretty natural and tight. im not entirely sure he did this every mix, but the ones he did were obvious that he was indeed sidechaining.
the real trick is setting up the sidechain correctly, with good settings on the compressor. |
much appreciated. |
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| Abhay |
I might be wrong but side-chaining comes from the way the hardware can be set up in the production studtio...
haha. we need more trainspotting threads like this, especially in the DJ and producing forums (not that i ever go to productions forums).
It relly would be better off to be more creative and develop your own special effects, instead of trying to rip off someone else. The reality is, you don't know what hardware or soundcard sasha could have set up, and he could be using all sorts of hardware or software plugged-in.
Not that I know much about ableton
Just my 2 cents. |
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| Abhay |
um... maybe it's the poor audio quality u get from when u use normal audio equipment to record loud environments, but it sounds like one of the effects PVD uses... if u listen to his Jahre Maximale set that's up for download.
and when i watched PVD spin, i noticed a lot of the stuff the other guy in this thread talked about... like many files seeming to be playing at once, and multiple mixer levels being up, but only 1 track playing. |
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| Ivand |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abhay
um... maybe it's the poor audio quality u get from when u use normal audio equipment to record loud environments, but it sounds like one of the effects PVD uses... if u listen to his Jahre Maximale set that's up for download.
and when i watched PVD spin, i noticed a lot of the stuff the other guy in this thread talked about... like many files seeming to be playing at once, and multiple mixer levels being up, but only 1 track playing. |
that must be returns for effects or layering or somethng |
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